Mint Error... circa 1600

[goldnow]

Lucky weather..Freezing Cold but with some sun today, with intermittent luck.

Amongst a few keepers, and the discovery of a glass dump (which I'll get into later today with heavy leather gloves) I found this little copper coin from around 1600. Probably Phillip II of Spain when the Spanish were the masters of Italy around Milan.

What's curious about it is that it is a "mint error". Notice the beginning of the dot-pattern rim of the next coin in line to be punched out on both sides.

(Also, I will not answer any questions on the amount of gold in this copper coin)

 

[49r Relics]

wow, you have to assume these were hand hammered but, how could someone be that far off of center? And both sides too. That's definitely a coversation piece. Nice find!

 

[jeff of pa]

Nice coin !

Hate to sound like a Jerk (Don't mean to)
but How can such an old coin
be labeled as a Mint Error ?

I Think all coins like that are slightly
Unique.

Anyway, How much Gold is in the Copper ?


Nice Find !

 

[goldnow]

Nice coin !

Hate to sound like a Jerk (Don't mean to)
but How can such an old coin
be labeled as a Mint Error ?

I Think all coins like that are slightly
Unique.

Anyway, How much Gold is in the Copper ?


Nice Find !

Thanks Jeff,...I wish it was a 20th century American coin , for sure. Not sure if these old coins get the designation of "Mint Error", but this one is so far off I thought it needed to be shown and possibly a discussion could develop on why they were so bad at making coins sometimes.

 

[goldnow]

wow, you have to assume these were hand hammered but, how could someone be that far off of center? And both sides too. That's definitely a coversation piece. Nice find!

Looking closer at the pics,.... One side has the next coin closer than the other side, so if my logic is right, every coin would be a "mint error". Maybe that is what they were going after?

 

[jdsarasin8194]

...really off center...

 

[jeff of pa]

if they are Hand Hammered I Could see
the first Few being Perfect But just
as Handwriting Changes after signing your name 20 times in
a row, they are going to get sloppy.

 

[CRUSADER]

Lucky weather..Freezing Cold but with some sun today, with intermittent luck.

Amongst a few keepers, and the discovery of a glass dump (which I'll get into later today with heavy leather gloves) I found this little copper coin from around 1600. Probably Phillip II of Spain when the Spanish were the masters of Italy around Milan.

What's curious about it is that it is a "mint error". Notice the beginning of the dot-pattern rim of the next coin in line to be punched out on both sides.

(Also, I will not answer any questions on the amount of gold in this copper coin)

 

[MonkeyBoy]

Nice find! I have a few examples of early copper coins circulating in the colonies that exhibit the same type of "error".. in these the coins were counterfeit and the second stamping was to obscure some of the rather poor workmenship on the coin. Personally, I like these more then the legit coins! It might bepossiblethat is what you have recovered, a counterfeit strike or due to the nature of hand struck coins, this is a legit mint error.. either way... Good Fine!

MB

 

[Trond]

Nice find.

 

[Baggins]

How much copper coin is in that gold?? ;
Baggins

 

[HISPAN]

This coin is not a hammered, is a mill is another manufacturing technique of a century later 17. poorly manufactured by a machine .

 

[CRUSADER]

This coin is not a hammer, is a mill is another manufacturing technique of a century later 17. poorly manufactured by a machine .

true, sheet manufacture

I like it

 

[Iron Patch]

Off center always adds some character! Definitely not uncommon for a 17th century copper.

 

[Brian(upstateNY-Central Fla.)]

A cool find

 

[goldnow]

This coin is not a hammered, is a mill is another manufacturing technique of a century later 17. poorly manufactured by a machine .

Thank you for these pictures. They certainly help in visualizing the difference between the techniques.

 

[goldnow]

Lucky weather..Freezing Cold but with some sun today, with intermittent luck.

Amongst a few keepers, and the discovery of a glass dump (which I'll get into later today with heavy leather gloves) I found this little copper coin from around 1600. Probably Phillip II of Spain when the Spanish were the masters of Italy around Milan.

What's curious about it is that it is a "mint error". Notice the beginning of the dot-pattern rim of the next coin in line to be punched out on both sides.

(Also, I will not answer any questions on the amount of gold in this copper coin)

Thought you'd like that.

 

[Dman]

Neat coin.
Congrats
Dman

 

[pepperj]

Adds to the character to the coin, very nice.

 

[Mrs Bloom]

wow, you have to assume these were hand hammered but, how could someone be that far off of center? And both sides too. That's definitely a coversation piece. Nice find!

drinking too much of that fine Italian wine during working hours......