more cachou box help needed

[scratcher]

The guy (Ben Swanson) I emailed for help the other day concerning cachou boxes needs a little help as well. A
french box is on it's way to him with an embossed gent that he needs an ID on. Evidently it was common to have some well known figure on these lids. Or is this just a generalized mug? It has a reference to the Orient on the lid, and Ben thought the guy looked Turkish. Any thoughts?

This is a link to the thread that got me started on this and may help if anyone knows as little as I do about cachou boxes.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,277027.0.html

Thanks for the help so far Don and IronSpike

 

[Mackaydon]

Can you spell out the wording on each side? Thanks

 

[scratcher]

I was having trouble with that too, Don. From what I can tell it has CACHOU d' ORIENT L. JACQUIN PARIS on the front. The back has CACHOU SUPERIEUR AROMATISE POUR. The other words I can't make out either. Here are blowups:

 

[Mackaydon]

Scratcher:
Many thanks.
Don.....

 

[IronSpike]

I'm thinking Genghis Khan and that the box is Cachou bonbon:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=...=1&sa=1&q=Cachou+bonbon&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...mage_result&resnum=8&ct=image&ved=0CB4Q9QEwBw

 

[Mackaydon]

CACHOU d' ORIENT = Cashews from the East
AROMATISE POUR= Flavor for

 

[IronSpike]

CACHOU d' ORIENT = Cashews from the East
AROMATISE POUR= Flavor for

Well done Mackaydon Reckon the oriental guy could be anyone with a moustache

 

[Mackaydon]

We're getting there, but still several words yet to be distinquished.
The 'shield' looks like either a brand mark or an award image.

 

[IronSpike]

Ahhh, cachou is a style of pill box

Some good pics of a similar cachou on this site:

http://www.phisick.com/a6appcachou.htm

 

[Mackaydon]

Iron Spike: Great ID!!
Scratcher, can you pencil trace over the object to see if you can pick up the missing words?

 

[scratcher]

Iron Spike: Great ID!!
Scratcher, can you pencil trace over the object to see if you can pick up the missing words?

Don, all I have are the photos to work with. I'll play with them a bit to see if I can make it out....

Thanks

 

[PBK]

Bit of info and an interesting Abe Lincoln cachou tin at:

http://www.treasurenet.com/treasures/askmarkparker/200102.htm

 

[Mackaydon]

And now I find this:

Cachou. - A scented lozenge used to sweeten the breath (e.g. to conceal the odor of tobacco).

Tutor's tip: That "cachou" (a pastille to sweeten the breath) had a taste like a "cashew" (a nut from a tropical tree).

Source: http://www.answers.com/topic/cachou

 

[IronSpike]

Still no ID on the oriental guy. Here's one with Prince Henri:

http://www.axioart.com/index.php?op=live_item&id=40350

 

[Mackaydon]

Scratcher:
Once you friend receives this item, perhaps he/you could furnish us with what other (currently unreadable) words are on the item.

 

[scratcher]

I'm thinking Genghis Khan and that the box is Cachou bonbon:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=...=1&sa=1&q=Cachou+bonbon&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...mage_result&resnum=8&ct=image&ved=0CB4Q9QEwBw

Still no ID on the oriental guy. Here's one with Prince Henri:

http://www.axioart.com/index.php?op=live_item&id=40350

Could be Khan IS, thanks for the help so far

 

[scratcher]

Bit of info and an interesting Abe Lincoln cachou tin at:

http://www.treasurenet.com/treasures/askmarkparker/200102.htm

Thanks for the input PBK. Ben said that this Lincoln is the only cachou box lid that he knows of with no inscription on it. That's one of the reasons why he thought the other lid in my above link was not likely a 'cachou' box lid. Also,upon closer inspection the 'side hole' in my lid from the other link was likely not there originally. It was drilled or punched out like the two holes on the top. So it's just a lid for now.

 

[scratcher]

Scratcher:
Once you friend receives this item, perhaps he/you could furnish us with what other (currently unreadable) words are on the item.

Don, I'll see what I can do. Thanks

 

[Mackaydon]

Maybe it came off the top of a bottle like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1910-L.JACQU...wItemQQimsxZ20091010?IMSfp=TL091010131001r196

Scroll down to the series of pics, especially the one that partiallly shows the top.

Note the date (1910) and the description: "The bottle still retains it original tin top & there are some small cachous silver ball like lollies still in the jar"

 

[IronSpike]

Maybe it's Jacob the king of Persia. The head dress seems to be a better fit:

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1700_1799/compendia/hazart/hazart.html

Or King Karim Khan:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21512/21512-h/21512-h.htm