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Don't worry about slabbing them as they all show evidence of wear and tear. Get some flips as those bags will ruin the coins over time. The 1884 CC looks suspect. My guess is that it is counterfeit.
 
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I guess I'll need to check this out as well even though I dont have any morgans yet I want to start getting some and better cover my A- any tips for spotting counterfeits?
 
The 1884 cc is almost certainly counterfeit, the first you posted has been very harshly cleaned, the rest seem to be just nice circulated coins. Nothing worth getting slabbed.
 
I guess I'll need to check this out as well even though I dont have any morgans yet I want to start getting some and better cover my A- any tips for spotting counterfeits?

The first step to check them for counterfeiting would be putting a magnet to them. If it is silver or a very good fake, then it won't stick to the magnet. If it sticks to the magnet, then you are 100% certain that is counterfeit.
 
The first step to check them for counterfeiting would be putting a magnet to them. If it is silver or a very good fake, then it won't stick to the magnet. If it sticks to the magnet, then you are 100% certain that is counterfeit.

I thought you were nuts, but apparently the Chinese counterfeit a lot of coins and they use iron-based planchets. You have to use a strong magnet, but use one.
 
I thought you were nuts, but apparently the Chinese counterfeit a lot of coins and they use iron-based planchets. You have to use a strong magnet, but use one.

You don't need a strong magnet. I can use a kitchen magnet on a few Chinese fakes I have.
 
You first need to figure out the authenticity of the Carson City, and in my humble opinion I think any cc should be slabbed. I would agree on all the other coins, no real need to slab any of them just get 'em in good plastic holders.
 
I appreciate all the responses and I tried out the magnet trick and it is not atttracted to the Carson City or any others. Is there any other definitive way of telling or should I just take it to get looked at?
 
Did it stick to a magnet Kenny?
 
Oh, good for you Kenny.
 
Gold and Silver test kits are under $20 on Amazon, little bottles of a light acid.

They're even finding counterfeit half dollars now. And a whole lot of ingots too. Be wary! Now, if you dig it out of the ground, it's less likely to be fake :)
 
I hate to tell you this but the 84-CC, the 79, and the 80-S are definitely fake. Not sure about the rest but if they all came from the same place I would bet they are fake as well.
 
Thanks for the responses, I cant recall which ones I bought together or from where. Why do you say that those specific ones are definatly fake? I just want to know what to look for in the future. Thanks again.
 
Thanks for the responses, I cant recall which ones I bought together or from where. Why do you say that those specific ones are definatly fake? I just want to know what to look for in the future. Thanks again.

Take them to a dealer you trust; I know that can be an oxymoron, but you'll find one - they're out there.

I guess I haven't kept up on counterfieting (why would I?). I don't buy Indian artifacts any more, nor WW2 stuff. The bad stuff's just too good.
 
Counterfeit coins are very hard for someone to detect if they are good. Indeed high-end fakes of gold coins have been made that use the exact alloy of gold of where the gold was mined and nearly flawless dies!

When it comes to silver coins, often a silver coin will not feel right, it will feel slippery and odd. The magnet test will tell you for sure if you have a fake (if a silver dollar is attracted to a magnet at all it is for sure a fake) but the vast majority of fakes I've dealt with are either silver plated copper or copper-nickel and will not stick to a magnet. Just because a coin won't stick to a magnet doesn't mean its real!

A lot of it comes from simply handling a bunch of coins rather than any particular "flaw" that is easy to describe, the coin just looks "wrong"

Another test that can be used is the "ring test" silver has a particular ring to it, hold a known good silver dollar at the edge of your finger and tap it with something like a pencil eraser, it should make a bell-like tone. Next, do the same thing to something that isn't silver such as an Eisenhower dollar and do the same thing, it should make a "plink" or a thud sound. Then do it to the suspect coin, if its silver it should sound like the known silver coin. Keep in mind you must do this GENTLY, you don't want to scratch up a potentially valuable coin!
 
The 84 looks "softer", with no toning, than the rest. Looks grey. Weight will be the test you can do yourself. 26.73 grams. The date looks funny too. Appears to be made to look worn. Hence....softened. I have a counterfeit 1885 that I dug. Will post pics in am. As some of the others have said....it appears others you have may be CFT. Hogge
 
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