Musket Barrel?

[Davers]

Dug this last week. Would love an ID if indeed it is a musket barrel and if so what type. Thanks Davers

 

[ARC]

Definitely looks like one.

 

[smokeythecat]

Yes, it is a musket barrell. I can't tell about the piece of rusty metal near the tang, big end, whether it's what's left of a nipple for CW period musket or flintlock. Nice find.

 

[villagenut]

nice find Davers. pretty sweet

 

[BladeRunner2019]

Congrats on the great find. I hope to find a CW era (or older) gun one of these days.

 

[Bible]

Nice! How old is it maybe?

 

[Southern loyalist]

Great find!!! Definitely a musket barrel. From the looks of the business end - a .69, perhaps larger? No discernible rear sight, though it could have fallen off or had a simple v site for the rear that is unclear in the pics. Clean it out really well and see if there’s a round at the breech. Run it through electrolysis. It looks like it will clean up nicely and see if the rest of the rifle is still out there.

 

[pepperj]

Is that a bend or a bulge at the 32" mark? (First photo)
Congrats on the recovery!

 

[Davers]

Yes, it is a musket barrell. I can't tell about the piece of rusty metal near the tang, big end, whether it's what's left of a nipple for CW period musket or flintlock. Nice find.

I had the same deli-ma , seeing that nipple , this was a Summer 1864 discard (likely cause of the bent barrel ) & maybe the other parts were salvaged
I was on my way out when I came across this , so I did a 'quick' scan of the area near the find & got an old but modern 30 cal lead bullet , a 25 orb 32 cal center fire case & a few pieces of junk iron , but I was soaking wet with sweat &n my energy was depleted , lll go back asap to look for the Butt Plate , Hammer , Locking Plate etc , but this was a developed Battle Site so anything is possible .

Now to 'cook' such a long piece , Ill figure that out .

Thanks for your reply & have a Blessed Day.

 

[Davers]

Congrats on the great find. I hope to find a CW era (or older) gun one of these days.

It's my first & a land find at that , so I think if you put in the time you will come across one in the future .

 

[Davers]

Is that a bend or a bulge at the 32" mark? (First photo)
Congrats on the recovery!

Yes it is , That makes me wonder if 'they ' salvaged the rest of the rifle for parts , but Ill go back & look for more asap .

Good eye .

 

[Davers]

Great find!!! Definitely a musket barrel. From the looks of the business end - a .69, perhaps larger? No discernible rear sight, though it could have fallen off or had a simple v site for the rear that is unclear in the pics. Clean it out really well and see if there’s a round at the breech. Run it through electrolysis. It looks like it will clean up nicely and see if the rest of the rifle is still out there.

Yea I thought .69 maybe tho that would have been a rare caliber in my area in mid 1864 , but I never know , noticed no rear sight also , I have not even scrubbed it any yet , I also plan on looking for a stuck round , I'm gonna have to come up with a larger E -Cooker but Ill figure that out , + it's from a Known Battle Area & that makes it cooler IMO . Thanks for the reply & ill keep you updated .

 

[Davers]

Nice! How old is it maybe?

Well 1864 or before IMHO .

BYW , I like yr user name .

 

[Davers]

Definitely looks like one.

Thanks AARC .

Hope you a doing great say hello to Wrightdigger , or whatever she goes by these days & if still around .

I keep meaning to look myself but get sidetracked every time .
GD

 

[JBnNC]

Congrats Davey, that looks like a good one...going to clean up and display beautifully!

 

[screwynewy]

Now to 'cook' such a long piece , Ill figure that out .

Thanks for your reply & have a Blessed Day.

you can get a flat wrapping paper storage container to use as the bath for electrolysis. They are usually 36" or longer.

 

[Joe-Dirt]

Dave, to me it looks to be a model 1842 Springfield .69 cal smooth bore as I don’t see any signs of a rear sight. Although by 1864 most yankee units had switched to rifled muskets, there were some units in the iron brigade that preferred the smoothbores because of the buck and ball ammunition. Confederates used whatever was available. It could also be breach conversion 1816 to I guess, hard to tell from your pictures but it should clean up nicely. Great job!! If you find the hardware, the will make life easier to identify. I’ll post pictures of a few civil war muskets from my collection. The pictures are both of m1816 percussion conversions done before the war, the top musket is a “cone” conversion and the other is a breach conversion. I don’t think yours is a conversion but it could be as a lot of different arsenals did the job in different styles. I’d put my money on a ‘42,

 

[Davers]

Congrats Davey, that looks like a good one...going to clean up and display beautifully!

Thanks JB

I put a good scrubbing on it with the wire brush during a Big Storm yesterday & I agree it should look pretty good when preserved .

 

[Davers]

you can get a flat wrapping paper storage container to use as the bath for electrolysis. They are usually 36" or longer.

Thanks Man.

I had that type of tub pictured in my mind , so ill def , be on the lookout for 1 .
GD

 

[Davers]

Dave, to me it looks to be a model 1842 Springfield .69 cal smooth bore as I don’t see any signs of a rear sight. Although by 1864 most yankee units had switched to rifled muskets, there were some units in the iron brigade that preferred the smoothbores because of the buck and ball ammunition. Confederates used whatever was available. It could also be breach conversion 1816 to I guess, hard to tell from your pictures but it should clean up nicely. Great job!! If you find the hardware, the will make life easier to identify. I’ll post pictures of a few civil war muskets from my collection. The pictures are both of m1816 percussion conversions done before the war, the top musket is a “cone” conversion and the other is a breach conversion. I don’t think yours is a conversion but it could be as a lot of different arsenals did the job in different styles. I’d put my money on a ‘42,

You know Joe D ?

You may be correct , I was looking yesterday hard & could not see where a Rear site would have been & I saw no evidence of a front site either ( tho the muzzle area has the most rust ) I was also thinking " that barrel hole look's awful big for a 58 cal " but I have not measured it . I did get the dirt out & pretty 99% sure it's not loaded.

It would be an oldie for this area but not impossible esp , cause of the area it was found .

As for the rest of the rifle , I doubt it's there (I'm gonna look hard tho ) as this area has been hunted for Decades , I'm very surprised it was still there , heck it was not deep , I could see it just under the dirt ( an inch or so ) when I got the signal , I'm 'thinking ' somebody dug it before then discarded it , or the old growth in the area brought it closer to the surface .

To be honest I know very little about CW rifles but want to learn , I hope that I'm able to get some more pic's this PM or the weekend .

Thanks for your help , I really wish this thing could talk .