My first American military relic...tongue off a 2-piece belt/sash buckle

[The Patriot]

Well the snow melted and was a beautiful day to get out detecting with hunthicks and Hans R Dirty... managed to pull this tongue off a 2-piece belt/sash buckle - eagle holding an olive branch and arrows at the end of the day up on an older site. It's bigger than a regular button and smaller than a cross plate...it is concave with no back... Also found this possible 93 rd Label pin with the date of 1871 from the same Regiment I found the Shako plates a few weeks back... Also in the group picture is 2 militia buttons, vent circle, chain from the helmet, various coins from the 1800's, an ICR bale seal, musket ball and button..

 

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[creskol]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

What a nice batch of relics!

Can you post a photo of the back of the eagle?

 

[The Patriot]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

What a nice batch of relics!

Can you post a photo of the back of the eagle?

At work now but will post it later.... it's thin

 

[Hans R Dirty]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

The eagle seems a bit big for a button. It may be a bridal rosette Nice haul man I'll post mine later today. Sure was a busy hunt I feel like my back is fused Wait a minute, it is lol.....cheers

 

[Lanny in AB]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Nice finds! (Cap badge/collar badge?)

All the best,

Lanny

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

You pull a lot of nice Oldies, Love those Eagles! Congrats

 

[The Patriot]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Nice finds! (Cap badge/collar badge?)

All the best,

Lanny

was my thoughts also when I pulled it out.. thanks

 

[umrgolf]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Wonder if it might be the broken tongue of a 2-piece belt/sash buckle

 

[The Patriot]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Wonder if it might be the broken tongue of a 2-piece belt/sash buckle

I think you may have nailed it...now that I think of it there was another piece that broke off from the edge...

 

[umrgolf]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Wonder if it might be the broken tongue of a 2-piece belt/sash buckle

I think you may have nailed it...now that I think of it there was another piece that broke off from the edge...

was pretty sure that's what it is.. there was a similar one posted a couple weeks ago by KYShooter but his had stars around it but looked about the same

 

[Hunthicks]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

That's a pretty sweet find, and goes to show you never know what will show up! Different is always cool, something else to add to the display!

 

[creskol]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

What a nice batch of relics!

Can you post a photo of the back of the eagle?

At work now but will post it later.... it's thin

Just curious how thin it really is? Probably my bad, but I always associate thin as being like the brass skin of a plate, rosette, etc. If it is a piece to a buckle, wouldn't it be made of a heavier cast brass?

 

[kuger]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Yep its the center disc to a tongue and wreath.Its what we call the Rope Border Eagle.It pre dates the Civil War 1850-1855 or there abouts.I just dug my third one last week.There is presently two different types on Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pre-Civil-W...995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e68c48ef3

 

[kuger]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Wonder if it might be the broken tongue of a 2-piece belt/sash buckle

Lol!This was a friend of mines...I was with him when it was dug

 

[kuger]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

What a nice batch of relics!

Can you post a photo of the back of the eagle?

At work now but will post it later.... it's thin

Just curious how thin it really is? Probably my bad, but I always associate thin as being like the brass skin of a plate, rosette, etc. If it is a piece to a buckle, wouldn't it be made of a heavier cast brass?

No its stamped brass,it is said they were only used on cloth or elastic belts which they were but I have seen period "rigs",with them on thin leather belts.They are also listed as Militia which is not entirely true either.....not that many Militia's where they are commonly found

 

[umrgolf]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Wonder if it might be the broken tongue of a 2-piece belt/sash buckle

Lol!This was a friend of mines...I was with him when it was dug

typed "eagle tongue and wreath buckle" on google images

 

[kuger]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Wonder if it might be the broken tongue of a 2-piece belt/sash buckle

Lol!This was a friend of mines...I was with him when it was dug

typed "eagle tongue and wreath buckle" on google images

Yea,I think he had it on E-Bay

Patriot.....does yours have a "Rope Border"?One variety does and one doesnt

 

[kuger]

Re: My first American military relic...but exactly what is it?

Wonder if it might be the broken tongue of a 2-piece belt/sash buckle

I think you may have nailed it...now that I think of it there was another piece that broke off from the edge...

was pretty sure that's what it is.. there was a similar one posted a couple weeks ago by KYShooter but his had stars around it but looked about the same

His was a different variety....pretty cool to see a few of em popping up in places they normally dont

 

[Rick (Nova Scotia)]

Good Stuff.

It was a nice day here too. Bouus hunts almost at this time of year.

 

[romeo-1]

That's a good bunch of finds...maybe a visiting Yank at the 93rd?