My latest England finds

[cudamark]

Lot's of photos here, so, it might take a while to load. I may break it up into two or more posts. First up is the silver I found. 6 six pence, 2 shillings, one cut quarter hammered, a mangled hammered and some misc silver. Next is some clay pipe stems. A couple have some patterns molded into them. 3rd is some copper coins (greenies) from the late 1600's to the present. The upper left is one of those 1797 cartwheel pennies. 4th is an unknown coin or token. Anyone know what it is? 5th photo shows some misc items. A silver pocket watch frame, 2 crotal bells, 2 locks of some sort, a finger ring from a candle holder, and some unknowns. 6th is more misc. Some watch winders, buckles, thimbles, a chain, harness ring, many unknowns. 7th is a close up of one of the unknowns. It has a sunburst type pattern on it. 8th is another unknown that just looks old. Some sort of bronze hook? 9th is another unknown. 10th is some lead musket and piston balls, 11th is more lead items. At least one appears to be a token.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

Outstanding finds - well done !

 

[cudamark]

Here are some more photos and descriptions.... first two are

photos of what may be a couple of Roman Bronze coins. Pretty toasted, so, if they turn out to be junk, no real loss! Next is a bunch of common buttons. I tossed at least three times that many in the scrap bag.....plain flat buttons with broken shanks and other chunks missing. Next is some of the better buttons. Ones that have a pattern or writing on them. Anyone want to make a lamp? Found this mannequin leg on the side of the road where some construction debris was dumped to fill some erosion. Bit of a shock at first until I realized what it was. One of the fields I detected had a nice big pond in it where these two swans had set up housekeeping. All for now.

 

[Red-Coat]

Some good finds you made there. The mystery item (#4) is a late 18th Century trade token halfpenny with a “boy holding spanner, standing by a large auger” reverse. Like this one from 1793 by Hardy’s of Birmingham, which has the arms of the Hardy family (a shield with four hedgehogs and a hedgehog crest) as the reverse. Edge inscription: “CURRENT EVERY WHERE”:

You can just make out the twists of the auger on yours, Later ‘mules’ exist, usually by Kempson’s of Birmingham, with the same reverse paired with different obverses, and various edge inscriptions indicating where the tokens are usable. Like these (both from Kempson):

 

[billb]

Mark
Great posts with excellent details
Congratulations on your beautiful recoveries

 

[Digger RJ]

Lot's of photos here, so, it might take a while to load. I may break it up into two or more posts. First up is the silver I found. 6 six pence, 2 shillings, one cut quarter hammered, a mangled hammered and some misc silver. Next is some clay pipe stems. A couple have some patterns molded into them. 3rd is some copper coins (greenies) from the late 1600's to the present. The upper left is one of those 1797 cartwheel pennies. 4th is an unknown coin or token. Anyone know what it is? 5th photo shows some misc items. A silver pocket watch frame, 2 crotal bells, 2 locks of some sort, a finger ring from a candle holder, and some unknowns. 6th is more misc. Some watch winders, buckles, thimbles, a chain, harness ring, many unknowns. 7th is a close up of one of the unknowns. It has a sunburst type pattern on it. 8th is another unknown that just looks old. Some sort of bronze hook? 9th is another unknown. 10th is some lead musket and piston balls, 11th is more lead items. At least one appears to be a token. View attachment 2146626View attachment 2146627View attachment 2146628View attachment 2146629View attachment 2146630View attachment 2146631View attachment 2146634View attachment 2146636View attachment 2146637View attachment 2146638View attachment 2146639

Awesome!!! Tearing it up!!! Congrats!!!

 

[ironhorse]

Detecting outside of your local territory is always exciting.
Looks like some good detecting and decent finds.
Please show a close up of the button in the upper left of page 4
Looks like something I might know

 

[Nathan W]

Awesome job! I’m jealous

 

[cudamark]

Detecting outside of your local territory is always exciting.
Looks like some good detecting and decent finds.
Please show a close up of the button in the upper left of page 4
Looks like something I might know

The gilded one I presume........I don't have a photo of the back side yet. It's still in England being evaluated.

 

[ironhorse]

The gilded one I presume........I don't have a photo of the back side yet. It's still in England being evaluated.

Thanks
Not what I thought but still cool...it looks like one I found several years back..but theres so many British militia units from that period and the differences in some are small
Yours is in decent shape..you should be able to id that one

 

[Chilli]

Lot's of photos here, so, it might take a while to load. I may break it up into two or more posts. First up is the silver I found. 6 six pence, 2 shillings, one cut quarter hammered, a mangled hammered and some misc silver. Next is some clay pipe stems. A couple have some patterns molded into them. 3rd is some copper coins (greenies) from the late 1600's to the present. The upper left is one of those 1797 cartwheel pennies. 4th is an unknown coin or token. Anyone know what it is? 5th photo shows some misc items. A silver pocket watch frame, 2 crotal bells, 2 locks of some sort, a finger ring from a candle holder, and some unknowns. 6th is more misc. Some watch winders, buckles, thimbles, a chain, harness ring, many unknowns. 7th is a close up of one of the unknowns. It has a sunburst type pattern on it. 8th is another unknown that just looks old. Some sort of bronze hook? 9th is another unknown. 10th is some lead musket and piston balls, 11th is more lead items. At least one appears to be a token. View attachment 2146626View attachment 2146627View attachment 2146628View attachment 2146629View attachment 2146630View attachment 2146631View attachment 2146634View attachment 2146636View attachment 2146637View attachment 2146638View attachment 2146639

A virtual smorgasbord of finds. Pipe stems but no pipes is odd!
Well done.

 

[Hunk-a-lead]

Lot's of photos here, so, it might take a while to load. I may break it up into two or more posts. First up is the silver I found. 6 six pence, 2 shillings, one cut quarter hammered, a mangled hammered and some misc silver. Next is some clay pipe stems. A couple have some patterns molded into them. 3rd is some copper coins (greenies) from the late 1600's to the present. The upper left is one of those 1797 cartwheel pennies. 4th is an unknown coin or token. Anyone know what it is? 5th photo shows some misc items. A silver pocket watch frame, 2 crotal bells, 2 locks of some sort, a finger ring from a candle holder, and some unknowns. 6th is more misc. Some watch winders, buckles, thimbles, a chain, harness ring, many unknowns. 7th is a close up of one of the unknowns. It has a sunburst type pattern on it. 8th is another unknown that just looks old. Some sort of bronze hook? 9th is another unknown. 10th is some lead musket and piston balls, 11th is more lead items. At least one appears to be a token. View attachment 2146626View attachment 2146627View attachment 2146628View attachment 2146629View attachment 2146630View attachment 2146631View attachment 2146634View attachment 2146636View attachment 2146637View attachment 2146638View attachment 2146639

wow, such a cool assortment of relics and coins. love that silver!! bigtime gratz

 

[cudamark]

A virtual smorgasbord of finds. Pipe stems but no pipes is odd!
Well done.

Not really all that odd. The stems are fairly easy to spot, whereas a bowl doesn't look much different than a rock once broken by a plow. One guy in the group did get an almost complete bowl. First one anyone had seen coming from these plowed fields.

 

[Red-Coat]

Not really all that odd. The stems are fairly easy to spot, whereas a bowl doesn't look much different than a rock once broken by a plow. One guy in the group did get an almost complete bowl. First one anyone had seen coming from these plowed fields.

Also bear in mind that at one time it was common for people to rent a long-stemmed 'tavern pipe' with a charge of a pennyworth of tobacco. You returned the pipe after smoking it and the tavern owner snapped off about an inch from the stem ready of the next customer. Large accumulations of the discarded snapped off portions can often be found in the vicinity of old taverns, sometimes with smaller numbers of discarded bowls having a stub of stem that's too short for smoking.

 

[oldmxrat]

That's a fantastic bunch of finds, congrats!

 

[Chilli]

Not really all that odd. The stems are fairly easy to spot, whereas a bowl doesn't look much different than a rock once broken by a plow. One guy in the group did get an almost complete bowl. First one anyone had seen coming from these plowed fields.

Also bear in mind that at one time it was common for people to rent a long-stemmed 'tavern pipe' with a charge of a pennyworth of tobacco. You returned the pipe after smoking it and the tavern owner snapped off about an inch from the stem ready of the next customer. Large accumulations of the discarded snapped off portions can often be found in the vicinity of old taverns, sometimes with smaller numbers of discarded bowls having a stub of stem that's too short for smoking.

Ahh I see, ploughed fields, yeah they wouldn't survive long being driven over and ploughed too many times.
I guess I was thinking how we usually find them on the old goldfields the opposite way. Typically find the pipe minus the stems. Though some were wood ends and we detect the bands with wood long gone. Often too we get the clay end ones minus the ends. Ours lost during the diggers days on the diggings or where they camped. No traffic or anything and lay undisturbed till dug up or discovered so often in pretty decent condition considering. Like these.

 

[Gare]

YOU did great !!! Thanks for showing us !!!

 

[CRUSADER]

Looks good. The cut qrter hammered is Henry III.