Natural or Man Made?

[Hal Croves]

No one owes anyone an explanation or will be backpedaling...4 steps ahead...

The photographs suggest otherwise. What do you make of the object below the box, what I think may be pottery?

 

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[EC.Mason]

Godeep, nothing but respect and I mean that. But what do you mean 4 steps ahead?? This is NO secret ha ha. I think this is being WAY too analyzed. Its rocks in a creek bottom lol. its cool as heck and Id love to go with any of you all, but Im thinking its nothing more then a naturual event. No treasure under the tree, no lying people sending the pics, no nothing. Lord have mercy I was just sharing some neat pics lol. I dont think all nuts are tightened in some people lol. Bless your alls little hearts.

 

[franklin]

Godeep, nothing but respect and I mean that. But what do you mean 4 steps ahead?? This is NO secret ha ha. I think this is being WAY too analyzed. Its rocks in a creek bottom lol. its cool as heck and Id love to go with any of you all, but Im thinking its nothing more then a naturual event. No treasure under the tree, no lying people sending the pics, no nothing. Lord have mercy I was just sharing some neat pics lol. I dont think all nuts are tightened in some people lol. Bless your alls little hearts.

I have to admit that it is surely a better looking highway or road than the Lagina's found on Oak Island. Still looks natural but by the surroundings being higher and the road or creek bed lower makes it look like an old road bed.

 

[GoDeep]

Godeep, nothing but respect and I mean that. But what do you mean 4 steps ahead?? This is NO secret ha ha. I think this is being WAY too analyzed. Its rocks in a creek bottom lol. its cool as heck and Id love to go with any of you all, but Im thinking its nothing more then a naturual event. No treasure under the tree, no lying people sending the pics, no nothing. Lord have mercy I was just sharing some neat pics lol. I dont think all nuts are tightened in some people lol. Bless your alls little hearts.

It's all good EC Mason, I know you are posting in good faith and my posts weren't directed at you nor intended to question your integrity.

 

[Hal Croves]

It's all good EC Mason, I know you are posting in good faith and my posts weren't directed at you nor intended to question your integrity.

“...no lying people sending the pics...”
I don’t think you can be half pregnant in Kentucky GoDeep. Every time you post something about this site not being in Kentucky, you undermine EC. Mason and his friends credibility. Whatever your reasoning, the net effect is that you hopefully motivate EC. Mason to get there and to see for himself. Yours is a card players bluff.

EC.Mason, you have prepared yourself to find trash under that tree and it may be just that, but going for a look without an appreciation for what could be there is a big mistake. I would say dangerous even.

My nuts need to be tightened just as much as any treasure hunter, perhaps slightly more so.
Base on experience, do yourself a favor and take someone with you.


Have you told your friend, or the land owner yet?


Cheers!

 

[EC.Mason]

Hey man have I told them what?

 

[skyhawk1251]

I've arrived late, but I'll contribute my two cents worth. I vote "natural", but I also see signs of human modification/preservation. Some stones appear to be bedded in concrete/mortar, which is below the stones, as well as along the sides. I don't think the concrete/mortar I see is clay, because clay would not crack or show sharp, angular edges. I am strongly thinking this was a CCC preservation project -- a "make-work" project funded by the government -- something to give young men a paycheck and keep them out of trouble. The absence of weeds/trees sprouting in the voids between the stones is puzzling, but could also be a sign of human preservation. I'd like to see if the stones extend under the muddy banks.

 

[Hal Croves]

Hey man have I told them what?

About this conversation, our talk of a cache of Kentucky “trash” hidden in the hollow of a tree.
The longer you wait, the more difficult it becomes to explain your silence, until it becomes awkward.

I am going to leave you here, at 3000+ views, hoping that you eventually find something worth sharing with your students. Nothing is more valuable than recovered history.

Cheers!

 

[KY Hiker]

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I've arrived late, but I'll contribute my two cents worth. I vote "natural", but I also see signs of human modification/preservation. Some stones appear to be bedded in concrete/mortar, which is below the stones, as well as along the sides. I don't think the concrete/mortar I see is clay, because clay would not crack or show sharp, angular edges. I am strongly thinking this was a CCC preservation project -- a "make-work" project funded by the government -- something to give young men a paycheck and keep them out of trouble. The absence of weeds/trees sprouting in the voids between the stones is puzzling, but could also be a sign of human preservation. I'd like to see if the stones extend under the muddy banks.

I think the chances are high the creek will be running and those pictures were taken in August one year when things generally dry up around here. The CCC did a lot of work in the area, steps, railings and various construction...mortaring creek bed rock is doubtful of their works in the region IMO.

 

[EC.Mason]

Man I put about as much stock in treasure being under that tree as I do seeing pigs fly lol. And I’m still not grasping what I’m being silent about. I don’t think you all get that I don’t care about that place enough to drive an hour just to see it lol. When I’m in the area again and not busy I may stop and look at it or again would gladly show anyone that wanted to see it. Brother I wouldn’t dirty my shoes walking to it if that shows how interested I am in it ha ha. Again just thought it was cool looking. This is not nor will ever be awkward for me as I have never proclaimed nothing. Just sharing pictures.

 

[franklin]

I have to believe that as amazing as it looks as a road, it still has the signs of being natural. When laying a road like laying brick, you would never leave straight line cracks? Makes it difficult for anything with wheels. I believe it is nothing but natural rock that has cracked and been watered by the flowing creek over the years.

That tree is a sycamore tree. It is not very old maybe 80 to 100 years. I have seen those trees large enough to park two volkswagons simultaneously underneath them. There is one near Buchannon, WVa. that the French Trappers in the early to mid 1700's camped underneath. Of course teenagers today have almost destroyed that amazing tree. It still stands today along the Buchannon River.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

And...?

 

[Hal Croves]

And...?

Rebel -KGC
There is an old saying in Kentucky that you haven’t heard. “The only time it’s safe to shelter beneath an oak is when there’s a Sycamore nearby “.

EC.Mason - today’s forecast at the site should be iffy.
Hopefully you aren’t there.

If you are, or when you go, please measure the diameter of that Sycamore.
Take the measurement four and a half feet above the ground.

I would also appreciate knowing which direction we are looking, the photo of the tree.
Lets see where moss don’t grow.

You tell your friend because she may have some claim to any valuables and the land owner because it’s good form. Use your handsome head.

And if you take something, make sure to leave something.
If there’s anything worth taking.

 

[Hal Croves]

I think the chances are high the creek will be running and those pictures were taken in August one year when things generally dry up around here. The CCC did a lot of work in the area, steps, railings and various construction...mortaring creek bed rock is doubtful of their works in the region IMO.

I am going to take a guess.
EC. Mason doesn?t seem to mind.

 

[Hal Croves]

I am going to take a guess.
EC. Mason doesn’t seem to mind.

Somewhere here...

Edit: if this is the correct creek, this would be my entry point, walking upriver, off the map.

 

[Hal Croves]

Somewhere here...

Normal high water mark rules might mean that a person could access the creek downriver, from public lands (road side), and walk/wade right to that Sycamore. Which changes everything because riparian rights are federal. The landowner may not own that Kentucky trash, only rights to access it by land.

You have permission to access the site from the landowner, but not to recover valuables.
Think about how you go.

 

[Hal Croves]

Somewhere here...

Edit: if this is the correct creek, this would be my entry point, walking upriver, off the map.

Or down creek from this arrow.

 

[KY Hiker]

I'm not sure how you deduced the location of your map to the site. Looking at the proximity to the Mt. Parkway and the Clay City drag strip I am doubtful you are looking at the correct location. Somewhere near the Powell/Montgomery County Lines. This is near the Estill County line. But, at this point, any guess is good as another?

How about this area?

 

[Hal Croves]

I'm not sure how you deduced the location of your map to the site. Looking at the proximity to the Mt. Parkway and the Clay City drag strip I am doubtful you are looking at the correct location. But, at this point, any guess is good as another?

Well, it’s a guess.
But it makes sense based on everything that’s been posted.
I think that it’s a tributary of Hardwick’s Creek which looks to be unnamed.
Across from Creech Road.

I have been wrong before.
I say it’s here:

How old would you say Hardwick’s Creek Road is?

 

[Hal Croves]

A person could drop in here if they were pressed for time.
If this is the right location.