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Erik in NJ

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Just got back from a former British Island where I got a chance to do a bit of detecting. One spot yielded some interesting relics including this Firmin & Sons 2-piece hollow button with loop back. Unfortunately the button is not intact, but I have most of the pieces. It depicts 8 sets of rays emanating from a number "15" in the center. The button is approx 1" x 1". I am still cleaning it in hot hydrogen peroxide. But this is what I have so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Looks like a 15th reg. of foot button.Can't tell to well is it like the one in the pic. below?


1824
1839
1853
1850’s-1875

Firmin & Sons

Take Care,
Pete,
 

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Hi Pete! I believe it is either identical or very close to the button you have there in the center! The decoration between the sets of rays looks almost like an elongated telephone handset from the phones we used in the 70's (but of course it's not!). Can you please tell me what personnel wore these buttons and when? If American CW, odd that I would have found it where I did, unless it was Confederate then it might make some sense as this island was used against the Union. Thanks so much for your post!
 

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I see (thanks for Google) that it's a British regiment. And they were sent to this island according to the Wiki article in the mid 1800s!

West Yorkshire Regiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It seems this regiment has quite a long history. My button is quite corroded and damaged, but still an incredible find for me! The "15" appears to be on a raised dome. Any idea of the rarity of this button?

Thanks for any info, Erik
 

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons had a long history in mainly London but also Birmingham UK. The backmark is very dateable, looks like 1852-75 is most likely.[/FONT]
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FIRMIN[/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Date(s)[/FONT]

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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Name[/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Address[/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Related Information[/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1677 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Company established in London this year by Thomas Firming (sic).
Address: Three Kings’ Court [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1763-1768 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Samuel Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Opposite New Church [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1769-1782
1771
1770’s – early 1790’s [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Samuel Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Near Somerset House [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1770s – early 1790’s [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] S F [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Near Somerset House [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1771-1780 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]S Firmin[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Strand [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1783-1796
1875 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Livery buttons (c. early-mid 19th C) [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1793 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Samuel Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1793-1796 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Samuel Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Strand London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1794-1812 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Westall [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1794-1812
1797-1799
1797-1811 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Westall [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] . [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1800
c.1800-1811 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Co [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Early 19th C [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Co[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Plain gilt buttons [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1811-1821
1815-1823 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Langdale [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1812
1812-1814 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Philip Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1815-1821 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Langdale [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand &
10 Clare Court [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1822-1828 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand &
10 Clare Court [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1824
1839
1853
1850’s-1875 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] c.1825 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Strand London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1826 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Robert Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand & Clare Court, Drury Lane [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1826 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Robert Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1829-1834 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] P & R Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand & White Horse Yard [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1835-1837 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] P R & S Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand & White Horse Yard [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1837 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] P & S Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]P & S Firmin[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1838 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & King [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1838 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & King [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand &13 Conduit St [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1839 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Samuel Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand & White Horse Yard [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1839 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand & White Horse Yard, Drury Lane [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1839-1849 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Philip & Samuel Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand &
13 Conduit St [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1841 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Philip & Samuel Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1850-1854 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Philip Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand &13 Conduit St [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1852-1875 [/FONT]

[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand London
& 13 Conduit St [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Types include American Civil War buttons [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 13 Conduit St London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1855 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] P V Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand & 13 Conduit St [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Mid 19th C
Late 19th C [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Two-hole buttons [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1856-1860 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand & 13 Conduit St [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Livery buttons [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1861-1863 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153-154 Strand &
13 Conduit Street [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1864-1879 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153-155 Strand &
13 Conduit Street [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1875 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1875 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firm became a Ltd company and occupied these addresses:
153 Strand &
13 Conduit Street &
12 White Horse Yard &
20 Stanhope Street, Clare Market [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1876-1894 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons Ld[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Livery buttons [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1876-1894 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ld [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 135 Strand London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Error in address: 135 for 153 [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1879-1904 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmins [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 47 Warwick Street W London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] c.1880-1904 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons Ld[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 47 Warwick St, Regent St London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Livery buttons [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1880-1894 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ld [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153 Strand & 47 Warwick St London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1880-1894 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ltd [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 153-155 Strand &
47 Warwick Street [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons Ld[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 155 Strand, London [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Livery buttons [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1882- [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London & Birmingham [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1882- [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin’s [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London & B’ham [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1882- [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin Ltd [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London & Birmingham [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1882- [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ld [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Birmingham [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1882- [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ld [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Halesowen [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1884- [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ltd [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London Patent 2346 [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1894 [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Company moved from Strand to 108 & 109 St Martins Lane [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] After 1894 [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Company opened in Globe Works, Hockley, Birmingham, 6 Warwick Street [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1895-1904 [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 108-109 St Martins Lane & 47 Warwick Street [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1895-1915 [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ld [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] St Martins Lane London [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1895-1915 [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ld [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 108 St Martins Lane, London [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Early 20th C [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Firmin & Sons Ld[/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Early 20th C [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ltd [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1905-1915 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ltd [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 108-109 St Martins Lane &
6 Warwick Street [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ltd [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 6 Warwick St.
Regent St London [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1915 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Company moved to Cork Street, which became head office and sole London address [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1916-1968 [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin & Sons Ltd [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 8 Cork Street [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 20th C [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmins Ltd [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Mid 20th C [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] London [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Mid 20th C [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Firmin [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] England [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
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[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1968 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 81 Ford Road became head office in London [/FONT]
[/TD]

[TD="width: 83"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 1971 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 161"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 180"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 217"] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Birmingham factory moved from Globe Works to New Town Row [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1852-1875 seems most likely. This manufacturer is one of the most prolific makers in the UK.
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Thanks Pete, Don, & Crusader. I will mark it as solved. Nice work and thanks for the super fast id!!

Best, Erik
 

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I was considering having this button "repaired" (if that is possible) as I have the other pieces. Can anyone please tell me approximately how rare (or not rare) this button is. I was found on a former British island where according to accounts this regiment was sent. Also, I don't have any books on British military buttons--can anyone recommend any good ones? Thanks for any input.
 

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As Don correctly posted (thanks Don!) the regiment is designated "York, East Riding"....can anyone she some light on how they get these designations? Were they from York, England? What does East Riding mean? Thanks for any info!


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]15th (York, East Riding) Regiment of Foot [SIZE=-1]Soldiers' documents[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Formed in 1685 and designated as the 15th in 1751.The regiment arrived in Halifax on April 15th, 1758 and took part in the siege and capture of Louisburg that June at a strength of 859 . From Louisburg it went to Quebec with Wolfe, It fought in the great battle on the heights of Abraham, and after Wolfe's fall served at the defence of Quebec, and with the force sent against Montreal under General Murray, which completed the conquest of the Canada's. Next, it was at the capture of Martinique, and it the siege and conquest of the Havana in 1762, and was quartered for eleven months in Cuba, thence proceeding to New York, and afterwards back to Canada, where it served many years.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]In 1776 the Fifteenth, then at home, went out to Charleston in 1776, and made the American Campaigns of 1776-8 under Howe and Clinton. In the November 1778 it went to the West Indies.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]In 1827 the Fifteenth went to Canada, and served there until 1840, a period embracing the political riots at Quebec and Montreal in 1832 (suffering heavily in the visitation of Asiatic cholera), as well as the insurrection in Lower Canada in 1837-8. The first battalion was sent out to North America at the time of the Trent difficulty in 1861. It served there and in Bermuda until 1870, when it returned home.[/FONT]
 

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