Need help to ID button

[Saskhunter]

Wanting some information about this button I found in Saskatchewan,Canada.I just started metal detecting a few months ago so not sure about this buttons age or much else.I am assuming the HB on the face of the button is Hudson Bay Company and that it is made of brass?The back of the button has the makers name of FAVELL & BOUSFIELD ST. MARY AXE.The button is 3/4 inche wide and the eye on the back looks to be saudered on.Any info greatly appreciated.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

All I have so far is that FAVELL & BOUSFIELD may be the address of a slop shop in ST. MARY AXE. London.


http://books.google.com/books?id=TG...e&q=FAVELL & BOUSFIELD ST. MARY AXE.&f=false

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Career Uniform? Hanover Bank? Hudson Bay Co.?

http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=0&idproduct=20140

http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=0&idproduct=21679

 

[Kenosha Kid]

All I have so far is that FAVELL & BOUSFIELD may be the address of a slop shop in ST. MARY AXE. London.

Yes, they were a slop shop and dealt with soldiers' coats and shirts. They used to employ prisoners at "The Chain-Room at Millbank", as did many of the same type of businesses, to work on the clothing:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...+&+BOUSFIELD+button?&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (scroll down about halfway)

Proceeding's On the King's Commission, February, 1813 (Reference Number: t18130217-10):

246. JOHN JOBBINS was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 11th of February , two yards of cotton, value 2 s. the property of Samuel Favell , William Bousfield , and John Rickarby Bousfield .

WILLIAM BOUSFIELD . I am a slop-seller , and live at No. 12, St. Mary Axe . My partners names are Samuel Favell and John Rickarby Bousfield . The prisoner was one of our servant s that we employed in manufacturing our goods. On the 1st of February, on account of suspicion, I took him into the accompting-house and asked him if he had any objection to be searched, upon which he answered he had no objection. One of my servants did search him, and found on his person two yards of cotton, value two shillings. He mentioned where he had sold property, and there we found it. I believe he is not an hardened man. This is the cotton; it is our property. He had wrapped it round his body, under his shirt.

The prisoner said nothing in his defence; called two witnesses, who gave him a good character.

GUILTY , aged 47.

Fined 1 s. and discharged.

London jury, before Mr. Recorder

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?path=sessionsPapers/18130217.xml

Only button from them I've found so far:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=18783&cat=242

 

[Bramblefind]

That maker did have some connection to The Hudson's Bay Company. This is from a .pdf called "Fur Traders in Hawai'i: The Hudson's Bay Company in Honolulu, 1829-1861"

QUALITY CONTROL AND CUSTOMERS' PREFERENCES
These aspects of successful merchandising continued to concern the agents and enhanced the high reputation that the Company's imports enjoyed. Culled from agents' letters to London are the following comments:
The gloves we want are of shamois [chamois] leather . . . and no worsted about them . . .those received could not be given away. . . . Clothing received is excellent. Instead of sending checked coats next season, send some other fancy pattern of coat. . . . Pink prints from Louisa Hamilton and Co. sell well, but those from Caldecott a complete failure. . . . The bleached drill and fine cloth trousers from Messrs. Favell and Bousfield's are altogether too small in the legs.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....+favell"+"hudson's"&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[Kenosha Kid]

That maker did have some connection to The Hudson's Bay Company. This is from a .pdf called "Fur Traders in Hawai'i: The Hudson's Bay Company in Honolulu, 1829-1861"

I tried opening that but had too many other pages open; it was taking way too long.

They also had connections with the East India Trading Co. and did business, not only with the Hudson Bay Co., but also would buy wool, bone, etc. in Tazmania.

They did have a registered trademark of an axe in a circle, surrounded by the motto "axe brand best value for money"; but those words only lead to about 50 links to pages in the nat'l library in New Zealand:

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cg...C18630509.2.22.5&l=mi&e=-------10--1----0-all

None of my London (or similar) button resources even list Favell and Bousfield...I guess their clothes, etc. really did suck.

 

[Bramblefind]

None of my London (or similar) button resources even list Favell and Bousfield...I guess their clothes, etc. really did suck.

It sure is a nice looking button though

 

[Saskhunter]

That is very interesting information when put all together. It was likely a fur trade button because of other items I found with it,like cut copper pieces,musket balls etc...Seems like the information is so sparse it will be difficult to find out more.Thank for all the help so far.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Favell and Bousfield...I guess their clothes, etc. really did suck.

LOL Yea, made by prisoners and sold in a London slop shop made its way into Canada.. It still an interesting part of history.

 

[Iron Patch]

I'd say it's just an early 1800s British "hunting button".

 

[Hill Billy]

It's a Hill Billy button and me likes , PM me and I'll give you my mailing address .

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