Need your help guys, I think its a reale!!!

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Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Ok i'll just go through the hole story. Sorry if it is boring.

My grandfather made very good friends with a man in church. He owns one of the oldest houses in the area, built in the 1780's. I have hunted it previously 2 times with nothing but clad and junque. I went back yesterday at the request that i look for the glasses the owner lost. I figured it was like finding a needle in a haystack due to the fact that the glasses have very little metal in them and that he didn't know exactly where they fell out of his pocket. Needless to say, I did not find it.

I asked him if i could go around the yard and he said of course. I started by getting 4 wheaties in an area that I had searched the last few times. :icon_scratch: I moved to the front yard and got a somewhat iffy quarter signal. I dug the hole and the signal was now bouncing around a half dollar, still a bit iffy. I pinpointed the object and thought it was a nice silver dime. I was hoping for a barber or seated. I rubbed some of the dirt off and saw this strange design scratched into the coin. I figured it was a button or something and then i noticed some of the finer details. I saw the bottom of the shield on the back and my heart skipped a beat. I put it in my pocket to be examined later and proceeded to find an 1898 indian head a few feet away.

I got home and cleaned it off a bit more. The shield became more prominent and i think i see a 1 and a 7 and another number after them. I think it's one of those funny looking 5's that the spainards do but i'm not to sure :D. I need your help figuring out the date and what denomination it is. I read somewhere that the 2 reale is between a nickel and quarter in size, but this one is exactly the size of a nickel. Maybe since it's all messed up around the edges it's a bit smaller. If it's 1753 like i think it is, it will have beaten my oldest find by 127 years!! too bad this idiot had to go and mess up the one really cool coin i find.....

here are the pictures i've included...

pic. 1- the back of the coin (notice the shield on the bottom)
pic 2- the back of another coin found on ebay (to compare with pic. 1)
pic 3- the front of the coin i found, notice the date on bottom
pic 4- the front of a coin on ebay, look at funny looking 5
pic 5- coin next to the indian head i found

Thanks!!!
 

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Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Hard to say what that is... Looks kind of brassy/goldish in the pic. I see what youre talking about in the design, but I don't get what the scoring is, unless it was scored to be divided. Good luck.
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

That sure looks like a reale to me. I can't be of any help with a proper ID though. I wonder why the edges were turned down like that?
Great find!
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

I'd say its a reale!! Congrats!
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

yep and very interesting, not sure what they were trying to do
 

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M.T.D. said:
Hard to say what that is... Looks kind of brassy/goldish in the pic. I see what youre talking about in the design, but I don't get what the scoring is, unless it was scored to be divided. Good luck.

it's a nice silver color in real life. the pics make it look a bit golden like you said.
 

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grasshopper said:
M.T.D. said:
Hard to say what that is... Looks kind of brassy/goldish in the pic. I see what youre talking about in the design, but I don't get what the scoring is, unless it was scored to be divided. Good luck.

it's a nice silver color in real life. the pics make it look a bit golden like you said.

A dark blue background will make it look closer to how you see it.
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Reale it is I say but its neat though. :thumbsup:
 

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Your 1753 One Real is a beautiful find, I think it is more interesting than one not "adjusted". I posted size comparison last year on somebody's post and here is the photo I took with the size comparisons noted.
Congratulation on your oldest coin by a bunch of years!!!

Don
 

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Don in SJ said:
Your 1753 One Real is a beautiful find, I think it is more interesting than one not "adjusted". I posted size comparison last year on somebody's post and here is the photo I took with the size comparisons noted.
Congratulation on your oldest coin by a bunch of years!!!

Don

It's a funny thing Don, I don't know of a single find of the 2 reale style to be dug here even though we have found many reales.
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

You cleaned some house on that Colonial wilver.

Now, get out there and find us another super old wilver! :thumbsup:

Kyle
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

Nice find :thumbsup:,my friend pcolaboy just found one kinda like yours but he only found a 1/4 of it :icon_scratch:
 

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Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

i've been reading that back in the day people would cut the coins into smaller pieces for small change (hence pieces of 8). maybe this was on it's way to be cut, and someone dropped it or something. still doesn't explain the outer edge though...


i just looked at it again though, and the marks are different on each side. if they cut based on the marks on the front, it would not match up with what they drew on the back.
 

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it could be a little pizza pan :-\
 

Re: Need your help guys, I think it's a reale!!!

That is such a neat find!!. . . The score marks really add to it's character :thumbsup:

I'll bet there's more. . .

Take care,
watercolor
 

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RELICDUDE07 said:
it could be a little pizza pan :-\

So you're saying it's Italian silver? :D
 

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No.Its a spanish reale,and a great find.Its hard to say for sure grasshopper,but in florida we find them cut in strange ways.... Maybe they made the score lines to help the coin break at that point. :-\
 

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Here's a side by side, cool find :thumbsup: I wonder what it was used for?// HH M
 

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Michellets said:
Here's a side by side, cool find :thumbsup: I wonder what it was used for?// HH M


Nicely done.
 

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