πŸ₯‡ BANNER New Random Field - Day 4 - Hammered + ROMAN GOLD COIN (Wish List No.3)...

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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD350-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD350-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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Nice to see banner!
 
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:occasion14: Cheers everyone...
 

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I'm glad it didn't take as long to actually get that banner than for you to find that coin. Again huge congrats on the stellar find!
 

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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD350-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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Cru,

A really big congratulations on finding your white whale. Wow, 35 years and tens thousands of holes (more likely 100s of thousands of holes) later and it pops up when you least expect it. The coin looks amazing. Definitely a well deserved find for all the work and research you have put in over the years. Thank you for sharing. Good luck with hunts. Walt

PS I have to ask, what are 1 and 2 on your list which you are still looking to find (and sorry if you have all ready posted and I missed it).
 
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Cru,

A really big congratulations on finding your white whale. Wow, 35 years and tens thousands of holes (more likely 100s of thousands of holes) later and it pops up when you least expect it. The coin looks amazing. Definitely a well deserved find for all the work and research you have put in over the years. Thank you for sharing. Good luck with hunts. Walt

PS I have to ask, what are 1 and 2 on your list which you are still looking to find (and sorry if you have all ready posted and I missed it).
Yeap the White Whale crossed my thoughts.

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No.2 Saxon Gold Coin
 

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What can I say that hasn't already been said here Cru... except congratulations on achieving BANNER #26! :occasion14:
The condition of that Gold Solidus of Mag. AD350-51 coin is incredible, love the silver cutlery and coinage too.
Hope you and your Dad are both doing well these days,
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Spectacular finds. The gold is stunning. :goldtrophy:My daughter will be studying forensic archaeology/anthropology and linguistic archaeology/anthropology. She is into ancient languages and relics. She commented on your post to me, have you ever found a planchet, die or mallet/hammer for a hammered coin? She thought you must have something in your collection. I told her that must be a rare find but wondered if you have.
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Yeap the White Whale crossed my thoughts.

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or a Saxon Gold hoard...and you can eliminate number 2. :)
 

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Spectacular finds. The gold is stunning. :goldtrophy:My daughter will be studying forensic archaeology/anthropology and linguistic archaeology/anthropology. She is into ancient languages and relics. She commented on your post to me, have you ever found a planchet, die or mallet/hammer for a hammered coin? She thought you must have something in your collection. I told her that must be a rare find but wondered if you have.
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GM and Elizabeth
Good question!
 
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Spectacular finds. The gold is stunning. :goldtrophy:My daughter will be studying forensic archaeology/anthropology and linguistic archaeology/anthropology. She is into ancient languages and relics. She commented on your post to me, have you ever found a planchet, die or mallet/hammer for a hammered coin? She thought you must have something in your collection. I told her that must be a rare find but wondered if you have.
Regards
GM and Elizabeth
Simple answer No.
Extremely Rare find, only about 10 Roman ones Recorded on the PAS & a few Iron Age:
Our best chance would be the Roman Metal Working Site but we have had no positive clues that they were producing coins here (Which is what I would suspect because it was Military run & not an Official Mint)
Barbarous Imitations (local copies of Roman Coins to fill the gap of small change) were produced but little is known about where these unofficial local mints were.
 

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Simple answer No.
Extremely Rare find, only about 10 Roman ones Recorded on the PAS & a few Iron Age:
Our best chance would be the Roman Metal Working Site but we have had no positive clues that they were producing coins here (Which is what I would suspect because it was Military run & not an Official Mint)
Barbarous Imitations (local copies of Roman Coins to fill the gap of small change) were produced but little is known about where these unofficial local mints were.
Ah yes that makes sense that they are a tough find away from a Mint city.
Thank you for the interesting link.
HH
 

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Im way out in the out islands of the bahamas crusader.....im the last to know whats going on here.....so a belated congrats on an incredible find, and your banner !!
 

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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD350-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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Oh my God!!!!!
 

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Sorry I'm late to the party in offering my congrats on your recovery of Roman gold. God, that coin is stunning! Congrats on making banner. Now, go get another!
 

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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD350-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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So Incredible!!!! Wow!!!! Super Congratulations!!!!
 

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