New record clovis

shorelinesearcher · Jun 20, 2010

Saw this yesterday in the Murray Ledger & Times. Thought you guys would like to see this if you haven't already.

http://www.murrayledger.com/articles/2010/06/20/top_story/news01.txt

Any thoughts about authenticity?

mike

shorelinesearcher · Jun 20, 2010

There is a close-up pic in the paper that is not in the online article. I will try to get a pic posted later, but I have to go to ball practice with the boy now.

mike

joshuaream · Jun 20, 2010

Here is a picture of it. That area has produced a couple of other very large St. Louis variety clovis points before, the opinion of the people at the temple show was that it was good.

Rumor has it that it sold, but I'm not sure I believe the price.

Miami-valley-artifacts · Jun 20, 2010

I believe that the oppisite was found true at the Temple Show. There is more to the story but I have only heard it second hand and I'm not going to place it on here if I don't have all the details correct. But what I am sure of is that it is the opinion of most that it is not a good artifact.

Newt · Jun 20, 2010

That's a big point not to have at least one or two recent edge fractures tumbling in that creek. It might have just fallen in too.
It would be like winning the lottery.IMO. It made the paper so it must be authentic. :tongue3:

Newt

Miami-valley-artifacts · Jun 20, 2010

By the way, it is made of a material that knappers love called Buffalo River chert. Just food for thought. Scott

Newt · Jun 20, 2010

I would hate to be refuted if I found that.
Newt

shorelinesearcher · Jun 20, 2010

I'm typically not a skeptic & would think that if the paper has it as a front page lead story that it checks out, but it seems too good to be true. All that aside, any idea what it may have sold for?

mike

Th3rty7 · Jun 20, 2010

I've looked at hundreds of clovis and I have never seen one with secondary pressure flaking like that. I also can't recall seeing any made of that material. Not like I could afford to pay the quarter million price tag, but even with 6 coas I'd still be scared of that one.

shorelinesearcher · Jun 20, 2010

$250,000

Yikes, for that kind of jack I wouldn't care if it had 20 coa's. I would have had to been present when it was found to go for that. (plus born with a silver spoon)

mike

Miami-valley-artifacts · Jun 20, 2010

$225,000 is the number I heard floating around, I guess 250 or 225 what the difference at that point. I know of and have handeled a clovis that is about 8" long and is authentic, it looks nothing like the one pictured on this post. Absolute killer artifact, I'll contact the guy who owns it to see if I can post a pic. Scott - www.miamivalleyartifacts.com

Mooch · Jun 20, 2010

Here are some good photos of a big clovis from that area of Kentucky. http://www.lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-pages/may2000rogersclovis.htm

Tnmountains · Jun 21, 2010

I sure want to believe it is true. If he has sold it,it will not really matter. Looks like it would be a grave item but we have no records of Clovis burials do we? Kill sites yes but burials I do not know. Giant and perfect. I would have made sure to get an insitu even if I had to hike back for a camera. Nice link thanks for sharing.
HH
TnMtns

uniface · Jun 21, 2010

MHO : Modern knappers like Buffalo River chert for the same reason that Paleo knappers liked and used it -- because it can be fairly easily collected in large nodules that are uniform in consistency. If anything one way or the other, this would be a point in its favor.

The Grim Reaper · Jun 21, 2010

I read on another site that he had taken it off the market for now and had turned down $250, 000 for it. If it's real then it's the best flint artifact ever found.