New Site Investigation – First Hunt of 2020

ANTIQUARIAN

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I finally got around to cleaning the finds from my last 3hr hunt in mid-January, after that everything froze up and the snows came. This is a site I found through research and finally received permission to detect it back in December. Based on the finds after one hunt, I feel this was a barn as opposed to a homesite. Of course I’m going to return in the spring, hopefully after the corn has been disked and before the beans have been planted.
Nothing else too exciting to report, except for a reins guide (I think), an umbrella tip, a Conestoga Bell and a flat button. I did get a surprise when I saw the design on an unidentified piece flat brass. It had another piece of brass inside of it which is un-decorated. My buddy pepperj feels that it’s what remains of a powder flask. :dontknow:

Conestoga Horses and the Bells

The Conestoga wagons were pulled by a special breed of draft horses called Conestogas. These large horses measured sixteen to seventeen hands at the withers, each horse weighs 1,800 pounds or more. Since the wagons often traveled over muddy roads, this special breed had no long hair beneath the fetlocks, the lowest joints on a horse's legs, and no long tails that could become matted. They were treated well by their owners since up to $1200 was spent to purchase a team. It took six horses to pull a Conestoga wagon. Each horse wore a set of bells hanging from an arch that was attached to its collar. At first horses in the front had five bells, the middle horses wore four, and those next to the wagon wore three bells. These bells announced that the team was coming, and that people and cattle should get out of the way. What the horn is to the car today, the bells were to the wagon. It was an unwritten law of the road that if a wagon came along the road and helped a disabled team so that it could resume the journey, the wagoner of the disabled team had to give up his bells to the team helping him. If a team arrived at its destination with its bells on, it was assumed that everything had gone well with the team on the trip. Today we have an expression that evolved from this custom – "I'll be there with bells on." No one really knows how the bells came to be used. It is known that pack horses wore them around their neck so they wouldn't get lost. The frontier farmer had cow bells, horse harness bells, sheep bells, and even turkey bells.


Thanks very much for looking!

Dave
 

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Digger RJ

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Nice!!! Congrats!!! Nice Research and story!!!
 

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When does the big freeze start?
 

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I’d say remnants of a powder flask as well, interesting design. Congrats
 

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Awesome relics, congrats! :icon_thumleft:
 

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ANTIQUARIAN

ANTIQUARIAN

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Nice!!! Congrats!!! Nice Research and story!!!

Thanks very much Randy! :thumbsup:


Love the pics of the site and research. Well done!

Thanks for your post washingtonian. :occasion14:
Dave



When does the big freeze start?

Good morning Cru,
It's been a relatively mild winter here in Canada, they're still digging dirt on a lot of the construction sites here because there's no frost.
I was in Ottawa last week and they had about 40cms of snow on the ground, but here in Southern Ontario we only have a few centimeters.
Dave



I’d say remnants of a powder flask as well, interesting design. Congrats

Thanks for sharing your thoughts pa/nc, I appreciate it. :thumbsup:
I've never found a complete example before, but the detail work on this piece has me mystified.
Dave



Awesome relics, congrats! :icon_thumleft:

Thank you Professor!
 

creskol

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Now that's my kind of hunting right there :tongue3: .. Love that bell, and the decorated piece of brass is beautiful. Do you think the two pieces went together originally?


NICE axe head, too!
 

Gene Mean

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Those are some nice finds. The design on the 'powder flask' is quite remarkable IMO. Looks to have all the elements important to one on it.
The conestoga bells are some big apparatus in the picture, didn't realize that. Thanks for the lesson.
Good luck back there after it's turned.
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Zep11in

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Excellent research! Congrats on the recoveries
 

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ANTIQUARIAN

ANTIQUARIAN

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Now that's my kind of hunting right there :tongue3: .. Love that bell, and the decorated piece of brass is beautiful. Do you think the two pieces went together originally?


NICE axe head, too!

Thanks for you post and for your question creskol. :thumbsup:
I can see no signs of any solder on the piece and I did find the two sections together 'joined' as one piece.

I will post a shot of the back at the bottom of this thread.
Dave



Thanks for the informative history on the bells! Fascinating stuff!

Thank you for your post and support my friend!
Dave



Those are some nice finds. The design on the 'powder flask' is quite remarkable IMO. Looks to have all the elements important to one on it.
The conestoga bells are some big apparatus in the picture, didn't realize that. Thanks for the lesson.
Good luck back there after it's turned.
Gene

Thanks for your post and for sharing your thoughts Gene. :icon_thumright:
In all honesty I was hoping this would be a homestead, as opposed to just a barn. All of the sites I've found using these maps over the past 7 years have always been homesteads.

Of course, I've only detected here once for 3hrs, so maybe this is just the 'spread' of the finds in the area of a shelter and I've yet find the homesite? :icon_scratch:
Dave


Excellent research! Congrats on the recoveries

Thank you Zep! :thumbsup:
The weather forecast for the next seven days here is for above freezing temps, so if the snow melts some I just might have to make a return trip this weekend.
Best of luck to you in Louisiana... I've been to New Orleans a number of times and I just love the live music and Cajun cooking! :occasion14:
Dave
 

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