Newbie: lets talk about MFD and how those machines work.

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Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

architecad said:
aarthrj3811 said:
In response to the topic, it's impossible to talk about how something works, when it really doesn't work.

So you're right, there is nothing to be said.
Thank You..We will do the discussing since you do not have anything to add...Art

I admire Art :notworthy:

Arch



That figures.





A Dozen Points Proving LRL Fraud These points have never been rationally refuted.
"The level of sanity or insanity of the subject matter, determines the level of sanity or insanity of the two-way communication attainable in any discussion."
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

EE THr said:
architecad said:
aarthrj3811 said:
In response to the topic, it's impossible to talk about how something works, when it really doesn't work.

So you're right, there is nothing to be said.
Thank You..We will do the discussing since you do not have anything to add...Art

I admire Art :notworthy:

Arch



That figures.





A Dozen Points Proving LRL Fraud These points have never been rationally refuted.
"The level of sanity or insanity of the subject matter, determines the level of sanity or insanity of the two-way communication attainable in any discussion."

Everybody here caught you already in your many falsehoods. If you said about the use of lemon to test gold, that's your problem. I use Kellyco gold kit but that is not the issue. I'm not emotional but observer about your behavior. Everybody here, in some manner, don't like you because the way you're. I'm honest with you. You're an old man of 65. Make your mind. Keep busy attending your grandchild rather than arguing with user about MFD. California has many reason to re- build its economy. Maybe you can be useful there because your thoughts, ideas, criticism and skepticism are not useful at all in this forum.

Arch
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

No, I haven't made up any falsehoods, but you have, and here's the proof---

architecad said:
EE THr said:
architecad said:
Everybody here caught you already in your many falsehoods. If you said about the use of lemon to test gold, that's your problem. I use Kellyco gold kit but that is not the issue. I'm not emotional but observer about your behavior. Everybody here, in some manner, don't like you because the way you're. I'm honest with you. You're an old man of 65. Make your mind. Keep busy attending your grandchild rather than arguing with user about MFD. California has many reason to re- build its economy. Maybe you can be useful there because your thoughts, ideas, criticism and skepticism are not useful at all in this forum.

Arch


And once again, you try to make me the topic subject, rather than face reality.

I'm not the topic of this, or any other thread, in this (LRL) section.

You have no need to worry about me. Just the discussion.

You made a statement about something I supposedly said, but your statement was false. And now you can't admit it. So you want to change the subject to attacking me. This isn't my first rodeo, Arch. That won't work. Did you ever consider apologizing for making that false statement? Otherwise, it won't just go away. It stays stuck in front of you, and you will just have to live with it.

:nono:




A Dozen Points Proving LRL Fraud These points have never been rationally refuted.
"The level of sanity or insanity of the subject matter, determines the level of sanity or insanity of the two-way communication attainable in any discussion."

Everybody here caught you already in your many falsehoods. If you said about the use of lemon to test gold, that's your problem. I use Kellyco gold kit but that is not the issue. I'm not emotional but observer about your behavior. Everybody here, in some manner, don't like you because the way you're. I'm honest with you. You're an old man of 65. Make your mind. Keep busy attending your grandchild rather than arguing with user about MFD. California has many reason to re- build its economy. Maybe you can be useful there because your thoughts, ideas, criticism and skepticism are not useful at all in this forum.

Arch


Of course you can't post the quote, because there isn't any. You simply made that up.

So, to avoid admitting to your fabrication, you are trying to change the subject over to me.

Sorry, that won't get you out of your spot as an exposed pretender.

Is it also in your constitution that you should make up falshoods? Oh, that's right, I forgot---you are an LRL promoter, so that's just what you do! I shouldn't have needed to ask!

:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof! And quit complaining about the truth, the facts, and reality!

P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

EE THr said:
No, I haven't made up any falsehoods, but you have, and here's the proof---

architecad said:
EE THr said:
architecad said:
Everybody here caught you already in your many falsehoods. If you said about the use of lemon to test gold, that's your problem. I use Kellyco gold kit but that is not the issue. I'm not emotional but observer about your behavior. Everybody here, in some manner, don't like you because the way you're. I'm honest with you. You're an old man of 65. Make your mind. Keep busy attending your grandchild rather than arguing with user about MFD. California has many reason to re- build its economy. Maybe you can be useful there because your thoughts, ideas, criticism and skepticism are not useful at all in this forum.

Arch


And once again, you try to make me the topic subject, rather than face reality.

I'm not the topic of this, or any other thread, in this (LRL) section.

You have no need to worry about me. Just the discussion.

You made a statement about something I supposedly said, but your statement was false. And now you can't admit it. So you want to change the subject to attacking me. This isn't my first rodeo, Arch. That won't work. Did you ever consider apologizing for making that false statement? Otherwise, it won't just go away. It stays stuck in front of you, and you will just have to live with it.

:nono:




A Dozen Points Proving LRL Fraud These points have never been rationally refuted.
"The level of sanity or insanity of the subject matter, determines the level of sanity or insanity of the two-way communication attainable in any discussion."

Everybody here caught you already in your many falsehoods. If you said about the use of lemon to test gold, that's your problem. I use Kellyco gold kit but that is not the issue. I'm not emotional but observer about your behavior. Everybody here, in some manner, don't like you because the way you're. I'm honest with you. You're an old man of 65. Make your mind. Keep busy attending your grandchild rather than arguing with user about MFD. California has many reason to re- build its economy. Maybe you can be useful there because your thoughts, ideas, criticism and skepticism are not useful at all in this forum.

Arch


Of course you can't post the quote, because there isn't any. You simply made that up.

So, to avoid admitting to your fabrication, you are trying to change the subject over to me.

Sorry, that won't get you out of your spot as an exposed pretender.

Is it also in your constitution that you should make up falshoods? Oh, that's right, I forgot---you are an LRL promoter, so that's just what you do! I shouldn't have needed to ask!

:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof! And quit complaining about the truth, the facts, and reality!

P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

I posted so many time. :dontknow:

Arch :laughing7: :laughing7:
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

architecad said:
I posted so many time. :dontknow:

Arch :laughing7: :laughing7:


Where did you post anything like that, in your fantasies? You know, your dreams and delusions, the same place where your LRLs and MFDs work, and you find huge treasures, and micron gold in every rock? And where you imagine that you actuall know how to test for gold?

:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof! And quit complaining about the truth, the facts, and reality!

P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

EE THr said:
architecad said:
I posted so many time. :dontknow:

Arch :laughing7: :laughing7:


Where did you post anything like that, in your fantasies? You know, your dreams and delusions, the same place where your LRLs and MFDs work, and you find huge treasures, and micron gold in every rock? And where you imagine that you actuall know how to test for gold?

:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof! And quit complaining about the truth, the facts, and reality!

P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

:laughing7: :laughing7:
 

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Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

~EE~
Where did you post anything like that, in your fantasies? You know, your dreams and delusions, the same place where your LRLs and MFDs work, and you find huge treasures, and micron gold in every rock? And where you imagine that you actuall know how to test for gold?
Yes EE...Micro Gold can be found anywhere natural gold can be found..Yes is good to see that your fantasies are still intact. Do you still stay up all night to think about the delusions you are going to post tomorrow? I mostly use my MFD to test for gold in hot rocks and only keep the ones that are worth the trouble to process them..Art
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE~
Where did you post anything like that, in your fantasies? You know, your dreams and delusions, the same place where your LRLs and MFDs work, and you find huge treasures, and micron gold in every rock? And where you imagine that you actuall know how to test for gold?
Yes EE...Micro Gold can be found anywhere natural gold can be found..Yes is good to see that your fantasies are still intact. Do you still stay up all night to think about the delusions you are going to post tomorrow? I mostly use my MFD to test for gold in hot rocks and only keep the ones that are worth the trouble to process them..Art


If you rely only on your MFD to test for gold, you probably have a huge pile of worthless rocks in your back yard.

P.S. Since you only have your RangerTell with you now, are you now proclaiming it to be an MFD?

:sign13:





:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof! And quit complaining about the truth, the facts, and reality!

P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE~
Where did you post anything like that, in your fantasies? You know, your dreams and delusions, the same place where your LRLs and MFDs work, and you find huge treasures, and micron gold in every rock? And where you imagine that you actuall know how to test for gold?
Yes EE...Micro Gold can be found anywhere natural gold can be found..Yes is good to see that your fantasies are still intact. Do you still stay up all night to think about the delusions you are going to post tomorrow? I mostly use my MFD to test for gold in hot rocks and only keep the ones that are worth the trouble to process them..Art

Art

When I had my MFD, like I said before, I found many rocks with micro gold inside. Always I used the weight check to verify and it never failed. Always it worked perfectly. Many people saw how I used my MFD and they bought others MFDs. I used gold tester sold by Kellyco.

Arch
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

architecad said:
aarthrj3811 said:
~EE~
Where did you post anything like that, in your fantasies? You know, your dreams and delusions, the same place where your LRLs and MFDs work, and you find huge treasures, and micron gold in every rock? And where you imagine that you actuall know how to test for gold?
Yes EE...Micro Gold can be found anywhere natural gold can be found..Yes is good to see that your fantasies are still intact. Do you still stay up all night to think about the delusions you are going to post tomorrow? I mostly use my MFD to test for gold in hot rocks and only keep the ones that are worth the trouble to process them..Art

Art

When I had my MFD, like I said before, I found many rocks with micro gold inside. Always I used the weight check to verify and it never failed. Always it worked perfectly. Many people saw how I used my MFD and they bought others MFDs. I used gold tester sold by Kellyco.

Arch



You have no way of knowing if it ever failed or not, because you don't know the technique for testing for the presence of micro-gold. The directions for that Kellyco test kit don't tell how to test for micro-gold, and you probably don't even know what micro-gold even is or looks like.

:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof! And quit complaining about the truth, the facts, and reality!

P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

You have no way of knowing if it ever failed or not, because you don't know the technique for testing for the presence of micro-gold. The directions for that Kellyco test kit don't tell how to test for micro-gold, and you probably don't even know what micro-gold even is or looks like.
Why would anyone need in istructions to test micro gold..It is gold just smaller..Wow...Art
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

aarthrj3811 said:
You have no way of knowing if it ever failed or not, because you don't know the technique for testing for the presence of micro-gold. The directions for that Kellyco test kit don't tell how to test for micro-gold, and you probably don't even know what micro-gold even is or looks like.
Why would anyone need in istructions to test micro gold..It is gold just smaller..Wow...Art


Because it is "micro"scopic---you can't see it.

:sign13:




Random Double-Blind Tests for LRLs


Some people want to cause confusion by disputing the definition of "double-blind test."


Wikipedia---

"Double-blind describes an especially stringent way of conducting an experiment, usually on human subjects, in an attempt to eliminate subjective bias on the part of both experimental subjects and the experimenters. In most cases, double-blind experiments are held to achieve a higher standard of scientific rigor."

World English Dictionary---

"double-blind — adj. (Compare single-blind) of or relating to an experiment to discover reactions to certain commodities, drugs, etc, in which neither the experimenters nor the subjects know the particulars of the test items during the experiments."


Because most double-blind testing done these days, is by drug and food companies, some LRLers have cherry picked only those definitions found which contain the word "groups" within them. So they want to insist that there must be a large group of LRLers tested at once, for the test to qualify as "double-blind."

However, as can be seen, the term "double-blind" refers only to who doesn't know what the key element is, which would be the tester and the testee.

Sometimes these tests must, by their nature, involve groups of people, but not always. If only a piece of equipment is being tested for performance, only the equipment and the operator are required to participate. This is confirmed by the following additional definitions---

Wiktionary---

"double-blind test (plural double-blind tests) A form of scientific testing in which neither the tester nor the subjects tested know which are the control items and which are the test items."

Although the above definition uses the plural form, "subjects," it does not say that a "group" must be tested, and the plural form simply refers to "people." Many "people" can do Carl's test---one at a time. Note: The "control items," as mentioned in the above definition, would be the empty target locations, in an LRL test.

The Free Dictionary---

"double blind /dou·ble blind/ (dub´'l blīnd´) pertaining to an experiment in which neither the subject nor the person administering treatment knows which treatment any particular subject is receiving.

In this one, the word "subject" is in the singular form. Carl's test is double-blind. None of the particular LRLers, which might take his test over the years, will know which location contains the real target. And neither will the administrator.


In LRL testing, the "random" part means that the objective is changed at random, so the operator, if failing one part of the test, cannot eliminate that objective location and thus have fewer to choose from in the next test.

A random, double-blind test is the only method which qualifies as a means of certified proof of the performance of an LRL.

Example---

Carl's double-blind test, and reward for $25,000.00.

I will add to the list from time-to-time, as I become aware of more items.





A Dozen Points Proving LRL Fraud These points have never been rationally refuted.
"The level of sanity or insanity of the subject matter, determines the level of sanity or insanity of the two-way communication attainable in any discussion."
 

Re: Newbie: let's talk about MFD and how those machines work.

EE THr said:
aarthrj3811 said:
You have no way of knowing if it ever failed or not, because you don't know the technique for testing for the presence of micro-gold. The directions for that Kellyco test kit don't tell how to test for micro-gold, and you probably don't even know what micro-gold even is or looks like.
Why would anyone need in istructions to test micro gold..It is gold just smaller..Wow...Art


Because it is "micro"scopic---you can't see it.

:sign13:




Random Double-Blind Tests for LRLs


Some people want to cause confusion by disputing the definition of "double-blind test."


Wikipedia---

"Double-blind describes an especially stringent way of conducting an experiment, usually on human subjects, in an attempt to eliminate subjective bias on the part of both experimental subjects and the experimenters. In most cases, double-blind experiments are held to achieve a higher standard of scientific rigor."

World English Dictionary---

"double-blind — adj. (Compare single-blind) of or relating to an experiment to discover reactions to certain commodities, drugs, etc, in which neither the experimenters nor the subjects know the particulars of the test items during the experiments."


Because most double-blind testing done these days, is by drug and food companies, some LRLers have cherry picked only those definitions found which contain the word "groups" within them. So they want to insist that there must be a large group of LRLers tested at once, for the test to qualify as "double-blind."

However, as can be seen, the term "double-blind" refers only to who doesn't know what the key element is, which would be the tester and the testee.

Sometimes these tests must, by their nature, involve groups of people, but not always. If only a piece of equipment is being tested for performance, only the equipment and the operator are required to participate. This is confirmed by the following additional definitions---

Wiktionary---

"double-blind test (plural double-blind tests) A form of scientific testing in which neither the tester nor the subjects tested know which are the control items and which are the test items."

Although the above definition uses the plural form, "subjects," it does not say that a "group" must be tested, and the plural form simply refers to "people." Many "people" can do Carl's test---one at a time. Note: The "control items," as mentioned in the above definition, would be the empty target locations, in an LRL test.

The Free Dictionary---

"double blind /dou·ble blind/ (dub´'l blīnd´) pertaining to an experiment in which neither the subject nor the person administering treatment knows which treatment any particular subject is receiving.

In this one, the word "subject" is in the singular form. Carl's test is double-blind. None of the particular LRLers, which might take his test over the years, will know which location contains the real target. And neither will the administrator.


In LRL testing, the "random" part means that the objective is changed at random, so the operator, if failing one part of the test, cannot eliminate that objective location and thus have fewer to choose from in the next test.

A random, double-blind test is the only method which qualifies as a means of certified proof of the performance of an LRL.

Example---

Carl's double-blind test, and reward for $25,000.00.

I will add to the list from time-to-time, as I become aware of more items.





A Dozen Points Proving LRL Fraud These points have never been rationally refuted.
"The level of sanity or insanity of the subject matter, determines the level of sanity or insanity of the two-way communication attainable in any discussion."

Lots a BS!!
 

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