Newbies Dads yard yields whopper

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Newbie's Dad's yard yields whopper

How do you like that tongue twister title? I'm pretty much a newbie, and the last couple weekends, I've been working my dad's yard and swale. I got some good advice from Bigtim1973 about using my ace 250 in all-metal mode to go deeper, and sure enough, i found a Rosie really deep, maybe 10". I have no idea how a Roosevelt dime got down that far. Before that I found a couple of wheats in one hole. Just after the dime found another wheatie. Then I found what looked like a well-pipe. Next up was...nothing I would ever have expected. It's a brass or bronze (or gold, lol), very crudely made dirk or short sword. The blade was roughly ground to shape and edged. The tip appears bent and broken. I have imagined a variety of possibilities as to the history of this item, but if anyone has any ideas be sure to let me know. The history of this site includes the settlers and real estate developers and modern day homeowners preceding my father, all of whom would or could have been there during the 20th century, but not earlier. I suppose this item could have been made by a modern era inhabitant of this property, as it would require only minimal metal-smithing abilities. Brass or bronze seems an odd choice of material for a 20th century American to make an edged fighting weapon - unless it was a decorative item. But, then why grind a sharp edge on it? I think it could have been a travel souvenir belonging to a previous home-owner that was somehow lost in the yard. I like to think it was bent on Spanish armor by a Spanish era Indian who was not thrilled by the new mission, and who dropped it on impact and then ran for his life. Most of the clads in the photo were found at a nearby schoolyard.
 

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Re: Newbie's Dad's yard yields whopper

Fantastic weapon find !
will be watching for updates on this.
Welcome and congrats on some Great Digs :thumbsup:
 
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Very interesting indeed. I can tell you this much if the bearer of this weapon brought it into battle I know what happened to him. Brass or Bronze is a poor and soft metal. And true contact with a steel weapon would destroy it. It does seem to be hand made and forged. Very cool find indeed. :headbang: :headbang:
 
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jamesbibb said:
Very interesting indeed. I can tell you this much if the bearer of this weapon brought it into battle I know what happened to him. Brass or Bronze is a poor and soft metal. And true contact with a steel weapon would destroy it. It does seem to be hand made and forged. Very cool find indeed. :headbang: :headbang:

Indeed. But it would have been very effective against the unarmored Indians; it could have been a replacement for lost steel weapons from Spain. If it had been made of steel, I probably would have only found some rusty looking soil.
 
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
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Think your short-sword needs to go to a university for dating. It may be much older.
 
Re: Newbie's Dad's yard yields whopper

needs to get checked out -- very interesting
 
Re: Newbie's Dad's yard yields whopper

I would agree, the craftmanship looks like something very old to me.
 

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