NGC Graded 1916 Quarter I think ????? Help

[A2coins]

I just recived this in my inbox from NGC NGC Cert #2102197-001NGC Description1916 STANDING 25CNGC Grade ILLEGIBLE DATE Label https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2102197-001/other/ I had a Standing Liberty quater I figured its worth it to try to find out if it was the 1916 or the 1917. I stated that on the submission form 1916 /17Standing liberty when I called they said they would try to ID it by the details. I got the email graded finalized shipped and this above. I know the date is illegible they listed it on this as a 1916 does this mean they did Id it by the detail differences between the 1916 and 17 ? Someone help before I fall head first into the Booby Hatch Thanks Tommy

 

[Javadroid]

Hey Tommy - I'm sure you know the types differences on SLQs and they clearly saw yours is a Type 1, but there were some Type 1s made in 1917 before the chainmail was added. I know of no way they could have told the difference though between a '16 and '17 Type 1. Unless there was enough of a curve on the last date digit to clarify the date, even though the overall date is still "illegible." Meaning, they couldn't see the date, but they know it's a Type 1 and they know the last digit must be a "6" because they can see a slight curve, thus it must be a 1916. Only way I can think of - hope it helps...

 

[Digger RJ]

Seems to Me that if it was in fact a 1916, then that’s how they’d list it. With the scope of verification they have, they must have made out the 6. Just My opinion. Congrats Tommy!!!

 

[A2coins]

Thanks Guys I hope so they didnt give any more info than what I posted I hope it is a 1916 Ive seen so many articles on how to tell the 2 apart the Dress goes to the toe the arm does this ect ect I do know there was no mint mark on it.I hope when it gets here it has more info then just the coin in a brown label holder that says 1916 illegible date. Then Im right back to square 1 LOL

 

[testing123]

There are actually subtle differences between the 1916 and 1917 that you may be able to identify even with the date 100% gone.

 

[testing123]

Do you have a pic of the coin?

 

[WG2020]

Tommy,

Just give them a call and have them explain the grading.

Good luck with your hunts.

Walt

 

[A2coins]

Heres a link to some pics from when I found it a long time ago I can post more when it comes back they labeled it 1916 date illegible I hoped they could ID it from details why would the keep the 1916 on the slabbed label http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/491451-standing-liberty-1916-1917-a.html

 

[A2coins]

Tommy,

Just give them a call and have them explain the grading.

Good luck with your hunts.

Walt

They are still open but not taking calls I sent them an email still no answer it took 40 days to get to grading I appreciate them still working Im just confused .

 

[A2coins]

Shes been beaten like the day I broke our fish tank in my living room when I was a Kid

 

[Tuberale]

Congrats on finding one, though.

 

[Javadroid]

There are actually subtle differences between the 1916 and 1917 that you may be able to identify even with the date 100% gone.

Can you elaborate on what those are for the '16 and '17 if both are Type 1? I'd be interested to know that for my own knowledge. Thanks mate.

 

[A2coins]

I looked at Google lots of people say how to tell but Im no expert so I figured I would spend the 25 dollars and hope they could heres one link https://coinauctionshelp.com/identify1916standingquarter.html#.Xo4vxBnYrnE and https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=294479

 

[Trezurehunter]

I would just contact them Tommy, and ask them to verify the label on the coin. If they labeled it a 16, then you would think its a 16.

 

[A2coins]

They arent taking calls I think when I get it Ill send it back for verification LOL

 

[Coinboy]

Congrats Tommy! SLQs are one of my favourite coins. Hope it’s a 16!

 

[A2coins]

Thanks I dont think Ill ever know even with it slabbed as a 1916 illegible date.I dont understand the coin grading world and the terms and hoopla why cant they just say dude its got a illegible date and it is or isnt a 1916 dont slab it and put 1916 illegible date just put illegible date

 

[Argentium]

I know you're frustrated Tommy , but congrats on even finding an SLQ ( especially a type I ) When I found my first a couple of years ago in a tiny Colorado town ( a no date type II) I was over the moon .

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Congrats on the ID and NGC cert!

 

[Mackaydon]

Tommy,
Id call it a 1917 for several reasons:
1. Liberty's head on a '16 breaks through the rim; not on your coin.
2. Shield rivets on a '16 are weak/almost non-existent; on yours, the rivet detail is still very pronounced= '17.
3. Your excuse wall lines (under 'we trust') are relative sharp; on a '16 in this condition the wall lines are worn or not visible.
Just IMO,
Don....