Ohio Lance forms- Paleo to Late Archaic

[joshuaream]

There was an interesting post that brought up some of the Lanceolate forms from Ohio. Not as much scientific info in this thread, just some examples I have scattered around my collection. A hodgepodge of old and new pictures, eventually I’ll get the actual pieces sorted into some type of grouping.

I firmly believe that some of these are post-fluted point paleo items related to their name-brand western forms (Agate Basin, Angostura & Cody Complex), and I believe some of them are likely related to Early to Mid-Archaic or even later form more common in Missouri & Illinois, and then some are likely introductions or evolutions from the East that extend into the Late-Archaic or even more recent than that.

Maybe it’s anecdotal vs studied fact, but one of the unique things is that they are predominately made from one of the black cherts from Ohio or WV, even when found in areas where other flints are more common.

Please feel free to post any you have, or ideas about them.

FWIW- You'll probably see some edits to this thread. I am going to insert pictures, and then add some comments above the pictures that are comment worthy.

 

[newnan man]

are you in Ohio ?

No, I lived there on & off in the 60's & 70's. I'm from Florida & moved back permanently in 83. I like Ohio and both my parents are buried there.

 

[dognose]

some great relics.

Do many have basal grinding?

 

[CreekSide]

Joshua Ream was one of the most knowledgeable persons I had ever met in the artifact community. I never actually met him in person but always wanted to. I hope others enjoy this thread and he will and always be missed and remembered for his knowledge and wisdom he so dearly shared with all of us. Joshua actually passed away a few years ago from cancer.

 

[russau]

R.I.P. Joshua Ream !

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Joshua Ream was one of the most knowledgeable persons I had ever met in the artifact community. I never actually met him in person but always wanted to. I hope others enjoy this thread and he will and always be missed and remembered for his knowledge and wisdom he so dearly shared with all of us. Joshua actually passed away a few years ago from cancer.

CS, thanks for the info on Joshuaream, I will make up a memorial thread to honor him when I return from gym.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Turns out Joshuaream is already in our "In Memory of Forum"

RIP Joshuaream

We received notice that long time member Joshuaream has left us. He was a long time member and very knowledgeable in indian artifacts and always willing to help. We have lost a well respected member with a wealth of Indian artifact knowledge...

www.treasurenet.com

 

[Gare]

No, I lived there on & off in the 60's & 70's. I'm from Florida & moved back permanently in 83. I like Ohio and both my parents are buried there.

OK thank you for your reply. I now live about 20 Miles South East of Canton Ohio

 

[Tesorodeoro]

I can tell you as this post came to the top, I clicked on it as I knew it would be interesting and informative. I was sadly reminded that the poster had passed.

Too many lost vessels of knowledge.

Not just smart folks, but people willing to share and teach. That’s not common these days.

 

[Lone Star]

Here is my main "frame" showing some of the variety, all Ohio. I probably have more color in this frame than would be normal in an typical collection of these, I've tried to get a few examples from other materials. Click the pictures and you should get a higher resolution picture.

Some mighty fine examples you have there. Thanks for sharing.

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[russau]

Mighty Impressive collection !