OK--I found a Third one of these today--What Are They?

[BuckleBoy]

Hello All,


I found the third one for the year of these mystery items. Rodeo Recon found one at a CW picket post last year that was the same size and shape as these three of mine for 2008 (which came from three different housesites). I think I have a few more in addition to these three laying around here somewhere... Each of these is the diamteter of a half dollar, and they are all made of brass.

When I begin finding the same whatzits over and over, I realize that their use must be pretty widespread--and I start to really wonder what they were used for.

Any ideas as to what these things are?









Regards,



Buckleboy

 

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[BuckleBoy]

IMO the groove could be from a cotter pin. The spring tension should hold it in place. The recess could hold the spring. But from what?

I think pippinwhitepaws and you are on to something!


All but one (the CW picket post one) were found around the houses themselves--not the barns, if that helps.

 

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[dkw]

Buckleboy, At least one of those existed in Missouri, too. It appears to be identical. It even has the groove. I saved it thinking someday I would find out what it was.

Found under similar circumstances to yours. Mid 1800s homesite. The house is no longer shown on the 1903 plat map. I would say definitely not an electrical part. As far as the war connection, I don't know. There was a lot of war related activity in this area but I haven't found anything else war related at the site where I found it.

 

[CRUSADER]

Let me just add my thoughts:

I have never found one or ever seen them in peoples junk, therefore don't think they are horse related. Thats it.....

 

[warsawdaddy]

They give the impression that a loop may have extended up thru the cap so they could be strung along a wire or string..Cap from an old light of some kind?Xmas? Can you tell I have no idea?

 

[Monty]

They look completely different in the new pics. No Idea. .039% correct! Monty

 

[A. Grignon]

Thank god I saw this post!!!!! I find these f*#!@%ers everywhere and could never find out what they were used for!!!!! Exact same thing though and they all came from house sites in farm fields that are shown on a 1874 plat map and I know that some were even older log cabin homesteads. Some times I will find 2 or 3 in the same field. Some one has to know what they are.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Thank god I saw this post!!!!!  I find these f*#!@%ers everywhere and could never find out what they were used for!!!!!    Exact same thing though and they all came from house sites in farm fields that are shown on a 1874 plat map and I know that some were even older log cabin homesteads.  Some times I will find 2 or 3 in the same field.  Some one has to know what they are.

I'd love to see some photos, if you can provide them.  I talked with Rodeo recon tonight, and we've found a total of FIVE of these items this year alone. 

I figured that others would've found them too. 

Glad to know that's the case.  Eventually someone will figure it out.  I have faith.  And I will keep trying too.



Feel free to post a photo or two if you can,


Buckles

 

[BuckleBoy]

P.S.--A. Grignon,

Seems like I post the relics that Everyone has found, but Nobody can identify...


While we're at it, ever found one of these? 


http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,175963.0.html



Regards,


Buckles

 

[EDDE]

i have a couple of those "things" also

 

[xdanthemanx]

YOU GUYS ONLY HAVE HALF THE ASSEMBLY....LOOK HERE this may help id

We dug two of these both with the center eye hook thing and they were dug exactly as shown in the picture
looks like some kind of sinch lock for rope or something

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,184914.0.html

DTM

 

[BuckleBoy]

YOU GUYS ONLY HAVE HALF THE ASSEMBLY....LOOK HERE this may help id

We dug two of these both with the center eye hook thing and they were dug exactly as shown in the picture
looks like some kind of sinch lock for rope or something

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,184914.0.html

DTM

DTM, thank you so much for posting that--That's a valuable piece of information!  It looks like there was a bar or pin that went through the iron loop and rested in the shallow "groove" on the brass piece perhaps. I have a question about the iron piece...is the small end of it threaded?

Would you be willing to repost your photo in this thread too?


I bet we can solve this thing.



-Buckles

 

[xdanthemanx]

when i get home ill see if i still have it if i do i'l clean it up and take a few more photos

i think it was threaded if i remember correctly, my wife says its part of a wagon hitching harness, I didn't imediately discount this statement as my wife used to harness race horses and seems to know every saddle hook pin and hardware piece i have brought home.

DTM

 

[dozer dan]

I'm thinking they are replacement caps for leather seals on a water well pump. 1 of them looks as if it has a lot less wear than the others.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

There may have been wood or a spring involved that long rotted away. The two pieces (iron and brass) are loosely fit together and something seems to be missing.

 

[Sky Pilot]

Dozer Dan may be on to something! Hope y'all find out, I found one here in TN. and don't have a clue! One big difference, though: Where I found mine, in an old cornfield, (has been for over 100 years), I've never found anything related to an old homesite, just old farm implements!? Great hunting and good luck!! Regards, Richard.

 

[BuckleBoy]

There may have been wood or a spring involved that long rotted away. The two pieces (iron and brass) are loosely fit together and something seems to be missing.

I agree.



I'm happy to have another piece or two to add to the puzzle.





Thanks skypilot! Seems like everybody has one of these darned things. Was the site you found yours on an old barn site?

 

[Sky Pilot]

BuckleBoy, I can't say for certain, but will venture a "yes", as I've found LOTS of medium to large forged nails there! As a matter of fact, some almost classify as spikes, but no railroad in this area! Regards, Richard.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Im moving Dans pic here after resizing. The brass piece may have been pushed up tight against the looped steel (by a spring?)and held in place with a dowel. Something has made those indentations. Maybe what it was attached to indented the brass. And something needs to hold the brass piece from simply sliding off. I think this is solvable.

Where the steel is looped around, is there an opening? ..or is it cast iron.
Is the other end a hex head?

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

British lockheed made a brake master cylinder with a similar piece...i can't seem to find a blow up on line...
spring fitted around the shaft. the cap we see at one end, the rod slipped into the piston...allowed one side of the cylinder to activated prior to the other....

but the size on these pieces leaves that out?

 

[wildrider]

I was thinking a spring or cable coming through the rectangle hole and holding something in the indentations.