Old Choctaw Jailhouse

[fossis]

In the days before statehood, (1907), the Choctaws had their own court, police, & Government, this old rock jail is located in Leflore Co Oklahoma.
Condemned prisoners that were sentenced to death were sent home to get their affairs in order, they almost always returned on their own to face their execution, usually letting their closest friend shoot them with a rifle, (they had a white cross pinned over their heart).
in a gulley behind the jail is where the executions took place, & a large tree was used to tie white men who didn't pay the indians for rental of their land, (they were flogged with a blacksnake whip).
The windows were tiny, & the door was made of steel lattice work.
The last man executed was William Going, in 1899.

Fossis.............

 

[Tank69]

great picture an wow what a history . thanks for both

 

[rginn]

Very cool pic, fossis. I don't think any of my family spent any time in this one, but my great-grandpa did make an appearance before Judge Parker in Ft. Smith, and lived to tell about it. I think he might have been scared straight, as nothing else came up. Then he got shot and killed by lawmen in 1904 even though he was a lawman. The shooter went to prison for that, too. My grandpa got sent off to World War 1 because he was 'allegedly' selling whiskey on the train from Ft. Smith to McAlester. (Well he probably was, but they couldn't prove it, so they 'encouraged' him to enlist. You had to make a livin somehow.) Very, very rough part of the world to grow up in. Most folks wouldn't believe the mischief that went on, and on a daily basis in Indian Territory.

 

[fossis]

great picture an wow what a history . thanks for both

Thanks

Fossis.............

 

[fossis]

Very cool pic, fossis. I don't think any of my family spent any time in this one, but my great-grandpa did make an appearance before Judge Parker in Ft. Smith, and lived to tell about it. I think he might have been scared straight, as nothing else came up. Then he got shot and killed by lawmen in 1904 even though he was a lawman. The shooter went to prison for that, too. My grandpa got sent off to World War 1 because he was 'allegedly' selling whiskey on the train from Ft. Smith to McAlester. (Well he probably was, but they couldn't prove it, so they 'encouraged' him to enlist. You had to make a livin somehow.) Very, very rough part of the world to grow up in. Most folks wouldn't believe the mischief that went on, and on a daily basis in Indian Territory.

Great history, you're right about rough times, & a person had to get by any way they could.
My folks lived over the line in Ar, but one great-uncle married a Choctaw woman with a nice big piece of land.
I know a spring where the Choctaws used to come trade with the white men, I need to get permission to detect that place.
There is more history than we will ever know around this country.

Fossis............

 

[naturegirl]

 

[fossis]

Thanks

Fossis...........

 

[Tnmountains]

Very cool pic, fossis. I don't think any of my family spent any time in this one, but my great-grandpa did make an appearance before Judge Parker in Ft. Smith, and lived to tell about it. I think he might have been scared straight, as nothing else came up. Then he got shot and killed by lawmen in 1904 even though he was a lawman. The shooter went to prison for that, too. My grandpa got sent off to World War 1 because he was 'allegedly' selling whiskey on the train from Ft. Smith to McAlester. (Well he probably was, but they couldn't prove it, so they 'encouraged' him to enlist. You had to make a livin somehow.) Very, very rough part of the world to grow up in. Most folks wouldn't believe the mischief that went on, and on a daily basis in Indian Territory.

Great history, you're right about rough times, & a person had to get by any way they could.
My folks lived over the line in Ar, but one great-uncle married a Choctaw woman with a nice big piece of land.
I know a spring where the Choctaws used to come trade with the white men, I need to get permission to detect that place.
There is more history than we will ever know around this country.

Fossis............

And so much of that history is being lost with every generation. I have neighbors who do not even know that their house sits on a battlefield. Great story. Imagine the long walk back to that place with your best friend.
TnMtns

 

[fossis]

Very cool pic, fossis. I don't think any of my family spent any time in this one, but my great-grandpa did make an appearance before Judge Parker in Ft. Smith, and lived to tell about it. I think he might have been scared straight, as nothing else came up. Then he got shot and killed by lawmen in 1904 even though he was a lawman. The shooter went to prison for that, too. My grandpa got sent off to World War 1 because he was 'allegedly' selling whiskey on the train from Ft. Smith to McAlester. (Well he probably was, but they couldn't prove it, so they 'encouraged' him to enlist. You had to make a livin somehow.) Very, very rough part of the world to grow up in. Most folks wouldn't believe the mischief that went on, and on a daily basis in Indian Territory.

Great history, you're right about rough times, & a person had to get by any way they could.
My folks lived over the line in Ar, but one great-uncle married a Choctaw woman with a nice big piece of land.
I know a spring where the Choctaws used to come trade with the white men, I need to get permission to detect that place.
There is more history than we will ever know around this country.

Fossis............

And so much of that history is being lost with every generation. I have neighbors who do not even know that their house sits on a battlefield. Great story. Imagine the long walk back to that place with your best friend.
TnMtns

You're so right, I have pictures, books, storys of every kind, I just hope my Grandchildren will use them some day, I try & tell all that i can to them, hopefully they will pass it on.

Fossis..........

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Can you say GHOST'S?


I don't think I would want to rustle any thing up there at night.

Maybe I would.


Great picture

 

[fossis]

Can you say GHOST'S?


I don't think I would want to rustle any think up there at night.


Great picture

Agreed, I don't know if the property owners have ever seen anything 'spooky' or not, but that would be a 'prime location'.

Fossis..........

 

[Tnmountains]

Fossis....
I can imagine your grandchildren hanging on to every word as you tell your story's. They will remember many things. They are fortunate to have grandparents.
Thanks for sharing.
TnMtns

 

[fossis]

Fossis....
I can imagine your grandchildren hanging on to every word as you tell your story's. They will remember many things. They are fortunate to have grandparents.
Thanks for sharing.
TnMtns

You're quite welcome.

Fossis...............

 

[Charmin]

Great history, Fossis! Isn't something how those old buildings can stay standing for years and years?---the stone masons sure knew how to put those things together a long time ago. That building looks like some of the ones on the Osage Reservation here in Pawhuska.
You're preserving history one picture at a time! Have you ever thought about writting a book?

sandcreek~~

 

[fossis]

Great history, Fossis! Isn't something how those old buildings can stay standing for years and years?---the stone masons sure knew how to put those things together a long time ago. That building looks like some of the ones on the Osage Reservation here in Pawhuska.
You're preserving history one picture at a time! Have you ever thought about writting a book?

sandcreek~~

Thanks, the stone structures are the last to fall .
Others have encouraged me to write a book, & with all the 'old timers' passing on, I'me thinking more about it all the time.

Fossis............

 

[vibes]

great photo!

heading back to dig crystals next week in Jessieville...was thinking of you!

 

[fossis]

great photo!

heading back to dig crystals next week in Jessieville...was thinking of you!

Thanks, we hope to get down there later on for a dig, have fun.

Fossis............

 

[kenley]

Here is a photo of the last execution at the execution tree in Wewoka, I.T. 1896.

My Grandfather was a deputy marshall in the "territories" before statehood. I thought I had a picture of him with his Winchester, but can't locate it now.

 

[fossis]

Here is a photo of the last execution at the execution tree in Wewoka, I.T. 1896.

My Grandfather was a deputy marshall in the "territories" before statehood. I thought I had a picture of him with his Winchester, but can't locate it now.

I was reading about the Choctaw's & they defied the U.S. Government, by executing a prisoner after it had been 'banned by law', their reasoning was he was sentenced before the law went into affect.
Thanks for sharing the pic & info, can you give us the deputy marshalls name if possible?

Fossis............

 

[kenley]

I am leery about giving out my Grandfather's name. Too many nut jobs out there. We have his Pistol
(2nd Model S&W in .38 S&W cal) We have his appointment papers. I have photo of him on a horse in Bartilisville, I.T. about 1900/05 My cousin has his 97 Winchester shotgun.