Old Choctaw Jailhouse

[rginn]

Understand your hesitation about giving the name, kenley. Go to the Oklahoma Historical Society website and you might find some info on him. The 'Chronicles of Oklahoma' is a great repository of info obtained mostly first hand. Also, check out a site called 'Oklahombres'. Lots of info on early day lawmen. Wewoka is in the Seminole nation. 'wewoka' means roughly 'barking water' which refers to the sound of water going over falls or rocks. According to one researcher, my great-grandpa lived for some time in the Seminole council house and was thought to be a Seminole. We don't have a clue about that one. He did live there, but we can't think of a single connection we might have with the Seminole Nation. Their culture is foreign to us, as we're more in line with the Choctaw and Cherokee nations. And if Fossis writes a book, he better put it up for sale at the Heavener Runestone State Park, and I will drive all the way to Oklahoma to buy it, and he better be there to sign it! I expect at least a chapter on his adventures with Miz Farley. Maybe two.

 

[naturegirl]

Yeah, the land runs may be exciting, and the dust bowl days dramatic, but the most important part of this state's history in relation to US history was the Indian Removal act. Hopefully, someday that will get as much attention.

 

[RON (PA)]

Very nice picture, Fossis. Thanks for sharing the history with us.

 

[fossis]

I am leery about giving out my Grandfather's name. Too many nut jobs out there. We have his Pistol
(2nd Model S&W in .38 S&W cal) We have his appointment papers. I have photo of him on a horse in Bartilisville, I.T. about 1900/05 My cousin has his 97 Winchester shotgun.

I understand fully, it's great you are keeping the history alive.

Fossis............

 

[fossis]

Understand your hesitation about giving the name, kenley. Go to the Oklahoma Historical Society website and you might find some info on him. The 'Chronicles of Oklahoma' is a great repository of info obtained mostly first hand. Also, check out a site called 'Oklahombres'. Lots of info on early day lawmen. Wewoka is in the Seminole nation. 'wewoka' means roughly 'barking water' which refers to the sound of water going over falls or rocks. According to one researcher, my great-grandpa lived for some time in the Seminole council house and was thought to be a Seminole. We don't have a clue about that one. He did live there, but we can't think of a single connection we might have with the Seminole Nation. Their culture is foreign to us, as we're more in line with the Choctaw and Cherokee nations. And if Fossis writes a book, he better put it up for sale at the Heavener Runestone State Park, and I will drive all the way to Oklahoma to buy it, and he better be there to sign it! I expect at least a chapter on his adventures with Miz Farley. Maybe two.

I have Cherokee & some Choctaw blood, but don't really know the history of the Choctaw side only my Grandmother said we had a 'little' on her side, her Dad really looked Indian.
I had better get started on the book, it seems the 'old timers' are leaving us in a steady stream, & History is lost every day, (I am pallbearer today for an old friends funeral), we were friends for at least sixty one years.
If I do write one, i'll be sure & sign it for you RGinn, i'me going to surprise my pal 'Scotto' with a copy soon of Gloria's book.

Fossis..........

 

[fossis]

Yeah, the land runs may be exciting, and the dust bowl days dramatic, but the most important part of this state's history in relation to US history was the Indian Removal act. Hopefully, someday that will get as much attention.

The Indians don't celebrate 'Columbus day', as you can imagine, that's when all their troubles started,
many old Choctaws wouldn't carry a $20.00 bill into their house at night, because it had Andrew Jacksons pic on it.

Fossis..........

 

[fossis]

Very nice picture, Fossis. Thanks for sharing the history with us.

You're welcome Ron.

Fossis...............

 

[scotto]

Hey that's a cool pic Fossis, you didn't take me to see that one but you took me to the smaller one, the Tamaha Jail. Very cool, lots of history there for sure.

 

[rginn]

Good pics Scotto. Naturegirl has a good point. The Boomers and Sooners got what they deserved when the Dust Bowl came, as they created it. I was raised in western Oklahoma and hated those people who would look down on you and sniff, 'well, my family has been here since 1901, when they claimed their farm. We are the founders of this state.' Well yeah, alright, but my family started tricklin in in the 1830's when they claimed they didn't want to be here. We should have started that State of Sequoyah. Enough of a rant, sorry. Somebody should start up an 'Indian Territory' thread. Lots of treasure stories there, among other doins.

 

[fossis]

I'll take you next time you're in the area Scotto.

Fossis..............

 

[kenley]

RGINN
The Seminole and Creek were both setteled here. The Creek had a lot of "Freeman" (freed slaves) that became land owners and intermarried with the Creeks.
The boundry line was actually just behind the council house. The execution tree was in the court yard behind it.
The whipping tree is just under the roof top photographer feet and still there.
I am not sure where the burial ground is, but the closest one still in use is 1 mile North of the intersection.
They still build the houses over the graves and many bury in their front yards.
Come on down and we'll give you a tour.

 

[Okie Hillbillies]

Hello, fossis very nice picture of the jail, and as always the stories are very helpful to the people that
don't know about our part of the country.



OkieHillBillies.

 

[fossis]

Hello, fossis very nice picture of the jail, and as always the stories are very helpful to the people that
don't know about our part of the country.



OkieHillBillies.

Thanks

Fossis...........

 

[rginn]

Okie Hillbillies, y'alls part of the country is very different than what most people imagine Oklahoma to be. A lot of folks believe the state's history started up with the land runs, and a very good part of it did. Kenley, thank you for the invite. I hope you looked into some of those sites I mentioned for Oklahoma history, and I hope your grandpa is in there. If not get him in there.

 

[Mental Granny]

You guys have so muh great stuff to take pics of in your area !

 

[fossis]

You guys have so muh great stuff to take pics of in your area !

Yes, we do have an abundance of places.

Fossis............

 

[Ray S S]

Fossis, Neat pics here and love the history on the different posts here. Very fascinating.

And Scotto too good story on the sign.

Thanks to you guys for sharing such interesting stuff.

I have some Huron and Algonquin in by ancestry but that is about all I know.

Ray

 

[fossis]

Fossis, Neat pics here and love the history on the different posts here. Very fascinating.

And Scotto too good story on the sign.

Thanks to you guys for sharing such interesting stuff.

I have some Huron and Algonquin in by ancestry but that is about all I know.

Ray

You're welcome Ray.

Fossis..............