old "for prisedent" thingy

[whitesid]

old "for prisedent" thingy

i found this at an extremly old site. on the one side it say for priesident and looks like a picture of someone in a civil war uniform. anyone know what this could be and the value?
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[Digginman]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

He looks really familiar. There was a former vice president, John C. Breckinridge, who was a general during the Civil War for the Confederecy. I know of him thru local history here. He won a battle near me.

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9016318/John-C-Breckinridge

Does it say Baltimore at the bottom of the back??

DM

 

[Spitfire Reddie]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

does that say Patent ??

 

[buscadero]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

The Back say's, "Compliments of the Patent Record, Baltimore, Md. The Front looks like someone in a U.S Officers Uniform!

Our ? For President? That's all folks,

Joe

 

[nhbenz]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

My best guess was "our hero" for president... but I googled a bunch of stuff and came with nothing. I assumed he was a general, but I don't recognize him.

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

It looks somewhat like Grant

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

Breckinridge campaign medalet

 

[whitesid]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

i know its in rough condition but you have any idea of the value?


thanks for everything

 

[PBK]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

WHOA!

Let's back up here! I guess it must have been Digginman's reference to Breckinridge, but for some reason I just assumed from the earlier posts that that's who it was. However, a closer look indicates that the name is nowhere to be found on the badge. The portrait does resemble some wartime images of Breckinridge, like this one:


However, I should have thrown on the brakes when Gypsy posted that medalet. That's how Breckinridge looked when he ran for president.. not as he does in the photo above. The big moustache and uniform came later.

Back to square one!

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

I knew you would catch that!

 

[PBK]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

I knew you would catch that!

I oughta catch heck for it, too!

Bless your (Gypsy)heart!

 

[Digginman]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

You are right, PBK, but he still looks familiar.

Good catch, Gypsy.

DM

 

[PBK]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

You are right, PBK, but he still looks familiar.

Good catch, Gypsy.

DM

Actually, DM, it looks a bit like Gen. McClellan, who ran for President in 1864.

Then again, it also looks sort of like Admiral Dewey, who was briefly but enthusiastically "courted" for the presidential nomination in 1900.

It might help to know what the metal is. It's probably "white metal" alloy, but if it happens to be aluminum, that would definitely push the date ahead to 1888 or later.

I've sent the photos to a couple of political memorabilia experts, so maybe at least one of them will come through.

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

The moustache looks different, but the rest is darn close...

 

[whitesid]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

it is aluminum
but after closer inspection it says "our .......... for president" is there any way that i can clean AL with out damaging it I'm first gonna try water with a tooth brush

 

[PBK]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

The moustache looks different, but the rest is darn close...

True, Jim. The only problem is, that's not how Breckinridge looked in 1860, when he ran for President. This is how he looked at that time:

 

[PBK]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

it is aluminum
but after closer inspection it says "our .......... for president" is there any way that i can clean AL with out damaging it I'm first gonna try water with a tooth brush

I think I'd leave it as is. If it is aluminum, once it oxidizes ("rusts") there's usually not much you can do to improve it. When the crud comes off, there will probably just be pitting underneath, the way it is on the upper right corner now. Also, when fairly thin metal oxidizes, it can get very brittle, and if you're not careful you can actually break it by applying even a little pressure.

 

[bk]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

Whatever it is, its really old, and really cool.
Super find!

 

[buscadero]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

Going under 2 assumptions, He was a "Local Boy", & was a General, I went down the list of Union Generals. There were 13 born in Md. 4
born in Baltimore. B.G Abercrombie, Bvt. M.G. Buchanan, & M.G. French & Kenly. actually, out of the 13, only B.G. Ord, born in Cumberland
Md. is familiar(because of Ft. Ord) Result: Probably 0.

Joe

 

[whitesid]

Re: old "for prisedent" thingy

after cleaning it up it looks like
our castle for president
got any ideas i tyred to search it and got nothing