One thing I’m not liking about the 800

[Wild Colonial Boy]

The question remains do we need to carry A compass 77b with out ultra modern Equinox??

As Far as I understand, as I don’t have one... it runs on 100khz and blanks on nails and never false, and in mineral mode the opposite

 

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[Wild Colonial Boy]

If the problem prasist go to the F75. We had a conversation about the sniper coil. My 75 LTD does great in iron with the small coil. Sometimes you just have to adjust. I keep the sniper on the F75. It's good around old home sites when set up correctly. Not saying the 800 can't be fine tuned but you list the 75 in you profile. Why not try it. When you are digging iron all day you might sacrifice a little depth.

Is it good to carry this one with equinox or compass 77b?

 

[gene the machine]

I've pretty much given up on the Nox. It's an iron magnet. I've tried everything that the forums have suggested and can find various sizes and shapes of iron with great sounding TID's at every TID number. tried no disc, high disc, no IB, high IB, 90 degree, lower sans, etc. and anything else that you can think of. It's now my emergency backup machine and about the only thing that I MIGHT use it for is water hunting but that's about it.

 

[Truth]

I've pretty much given up on the Nox. It's an iron magnet. I've tried everything that the forums have suggested and can find various sizes and shapes of iron with great sounding TID's at every TID number. tried no disc, high disc, no IB, high IB, 90 degree, lower sans, etc. and anything else that you can think of. It's now my emergency backup machine and about the only thing that I MIGHT use it for is water hunting but that's about it.

I’m very disappointed

 

[CharlesUpstateNY]

I've pretty much given up on the Nox. It's an iron magnet. I've tried everything that the forums have suggested and can find various sizes and shapes of iron with great sounding TID's at every TID number. tried no disc, high disc, no IB, high IB, 90 degree, lower sans, etc. and anything else that you can think of. It's now my emergency backup machine and about the only thing that I MIGHT use it for is water hunting but that's about it.

Interesting, my EQ800 arrives today. Its going to go head to head with my Deus and we'll just see how it does in iron. I detected around the Albany, NY area for years and its 300 years of piled up iron. That NY iron is nothing compared to the rusty nails here in the Portland/Vancouver area. Our pacific NW volcanic black sand turns your average rusty nail into a falsing nightmare and the mineralization is so nasty its hard for an Explorer to get even 6 inches of depth. So the EQ800 is about to endure a torture test. If I can get it to work here it will work anywhere.

 

[Truth]

Interesting, my EQ800 arrives today. Its going to go head to head with my Deus and we'll just see how it does in iron. I detected around the Albany, NY area for years and its 300 years of piled up iron. That NY iron is nothing compared to the rusty nails here in the Portland/Vancouver area. Our pacific NW volcanic black sand turns your average rusty nail into a falsing nightmare and the mineralization is so nasty its hard for an Explorer to get even 6 inches of depth. So the EQ800 is about to endure a torture test. If I can get it to work here it will work anywhere.

Well let me know when you get the hang of it. Our soil down here is mineralized, they say leave it in 0 GB, but mine will GB in 60-80. I’ve been very pleased in some places, but iron has disappointed me in more ways then one. I have to buy another detector.

 

[smokeythecat]

I hadn’t heard it was an iron magnet. Huh.

 

[Ronzie]

Well let me know when you get the hang of it. Our soil down here is mineralized, they say leave it in 0 GB, but mine will GB in 60-80. I’ve been very pleased in some places, but iron has disappointed me in more ways then one. I have to buy another detector.

This was my thoughts in trashy, iron areas with my Explorer. I really loved my Explorer but it didn't come close to my Outlaw in these areas. I'm still going to get the Nox 800 over this coming winter because I miss having a Minelab. I'll just stick with the Outlaw in those types of conditions.

 

[1942 merc]

I have very little trouble with nails . I have no problem with iron either . My equinox 800 finds things in 40 yr old beaten ground no other detector can . Area has everything to do with it . I continue to go to old hunted out sites and make ppls heads spin with ...You found that here ? Here is some finds from a 1900s school that has been hammered to death .

 

[smokeythecat]

1943 Merc, I had your experience when I got the Deus HF coil. I went back to my hunted out CW site and pulled out another dozen minie balls and maybe that many buttons, an early flying eagle cent, I think 1858, the common one, and a kepi hat letter "A" amongst other things. And I LOVE the tiny percussion caps.

People gave up on that one particular site about 5 years ago. The owners tell me no one goes there anymore but me.

 

[CharlesUpstateNY]

This was my thoughts in trashy, iron areas with my Explorer. I really loved my Explorer but it didn't come close to my Outlaw in these areas. I'm still going to get the Nox 800 over this coming winter because I miss having a Minelab. I'll just stick with the Outlaw in those types of conditions.

Agree the Explorer wasn't a great in heavy trash, but I learned to master it in iron around Albany, NY area which was founded in the 1600's. Working iron, its a learning process but if you setup an Explorer properly, wielded it properly, and understood what the machine was telling you it was quite effective in iron.

Now a rusty nail infested hell hole, you had to rethink your game plan with an Explorer. There was this 1800's park in downtown Albany. One edge of that park was first a park, then houses were built on it in the 1800's, then torn down and todays its a park again. The rust nails are so thick there that in spite of several hunts with the stock coil, nada a complete skunk. But it always irritated me because the rest of the park was littered with old coins. So one day I put the Minelab 8 inch coil on my Explorer and waded into that mess of nails, BINGO Indian head cents, seated, barbers, large cents popped out all over the place.

 

[cudamark]

I've pretty much given up on the Nox. It's an iron magnet. I've tried everything that the forums have suggested and can find various sizes and shapes of iron with great sounding TID's at every TID number. tried no disc, high disc, no IB, high IB, 90 degree, lower sans, etc. and anything else that you can think of. It's now my emergency backup machine and about the only thing that I MIGHT use it for is water hunting but that's about it.

That's strange......my 800 is wonderful in heavy iron compared to other machines (several dozen models) I've used in the 48 years I've been doing this. Around fire rings at the beach, it's not unusual to have a half dozen nails under the coil at any one time. The Nox will still sniff out a non-ferrous target hiding among them. I haven't made any major mods to the stock programs either. I use Beach 1 and raise the recovery rate to 8 (max) and adjust sensitivity as needed. I swing a bit slower, but, that's pretty much it.

 

[laidback4sho]

That's strange......my 800 is wonderful in heavy iron compared to other machines (several dozen models) I've used in the 48 years I've been doing this. Around fire rings at the beach, it's not unusual to have a half dozen nails under the coil at any one time. The Nox will still sniff out a non-ferrous target hiding among them. I haven't made any major mods to the stock programs either. I use Beach 1 and raise the recovery rate to 8 (max) and adjust sensitivity as needed. I swing a bit slower, but, that's pretty much it.

Same. I'm having no trouble at all. I dig very little ferrous trash with my 800. I generally run iron bias at 3 and reactivity at 4 to 6, depending on how trashy the area is. And I generally swing slower with the Equinox than with the Deus.

 

[CharlesUpstateNY]

That's strange......my 800 is wonderful in heavy iron compared to other machines (several dozen models) I've used in the 48 years I've been doing this. Around fire rings at the beach, it's not unusual to have a half dozen nails under the coil at any one time. The Nox will still sniff out a non-ferrous target hiding among them. I haven't made any major mods to the stock programs either. I use Beach 1 and raise the recovery rate to 8 (max) and adjust sensitivity as needed. I swing a bit slower, but, that's pretty much it.

Beach 1, for added depth? Less noise in mineralized ground? Just curious.

 

[Truth]

I’m learning a lot from this thread thank you and keep the comments coming.

 

[smokeythecat]

Are you using either park 2 or field 2 out of the box? No tweaks? Tweaks sometimes wreck things. Sometimes.

 

[flgliderpilot]

Are you doing the wiggle back method to check for iron with the front tip of the coil? It also helps to turn up the volume of iron.

Not sure why people are having so much trouble with iron.. disc notches is not the way to deal with iron.

 

[CharlesUpstateNY]

Are you using either park 2 or field 2 out of the box? No tweaks? Tweaks sometimes wreck things. Sometimes.

^^^ what smokey said. I only read half the EQ manual and thoughtful adjustment of settings seems wise. All kinds of information to pay attention to in the manual, and to ignore. Minelab's take on what mode to use in dry sand is totally wrong! Some guys yesterday seemed surprised to discover Beach 2 operates at reduced transmit power vs Beach 1, that's buried on page 25.

In other news its 2pm and Fedex still hasn't showed up with my EQ800

 

[CharlesUpstateNY]

1943 Merc, I had your experience when I got the Deus HF coil. I went back to my hunted out CW site and pulled out another dozen minie balls and maybe that many buttons, an early flying eagle cent, I think 1858, the common one, and a kepi hat letter "A" amongst other things. And I LOVE the tiny percussion caps.

People gave up on that one particular site about 5 years ago. The owners tell me no one goes there anymore but me.

My Se Pro Explorer is a complete FAIL at one of my sites, the Deus and HF round coil at 54 kHz got more than a dozen buttons and a few rifle slugs. Se Pro gave up at about 5 inches of depth, targets were swamped by the mineralized ground beyond that depth. Se Pro did pick off a Merc though, some things never change Explorers and silver coins lol.

 

[Truth]

^^^ what smokey said. I only read half the EQ manual and thoughtful adjustment of settings seems wise. All kinds of information to pay attention to in the manual, and to ignore. Minelab's take on what mode to use in dry sand is totally wrong! Some guys yesterday seemed surprised to discover Beach 2 operates at reduced transmit power vs Beach 1, that's buried on page 25.

In other news its 2pm and Fedex still hasn't showed up with my EQ800

That’s it I’m gonna read the manual which I have printed (took up all my ink) but that’s as far as I got. I’m gonna do it!

Not tonight but differently probably tomorrow.