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VaNana

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The big bullet was from the opposite side of the tree from the belt buckle. It is about 15/16 of an inch long and the diameter is a hair over 1/2 inch. Not sure the weight I don't have a scale yet. I am not sure if the other is a musket ball. It was in the foundation of the building that is no longer there. It is about 7/16 of an inch. The other one I'm not sure if it is old. Any information on them would be great.
 
The one on the right looks like a .22 Short.
 
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The "big bullet" is an unfired Confederate "Richmond Laboratory" Sharps bullet, for a .52-caliber Sharps rifle or carbine. The ball may be a .44 pistol-ball -- probably from a .44 Colt bulletmold. For certainty of ID, we need precise measure of its diameter, in hundredths-of-an-inch.


We also need precise measurement of your bullet-cartridge's diameter and length. Also, a closeup photo of its base.
 
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Thanks for the information! I will send them to the jewelry store with my daughter in the morning she can weigh and measure them there.image.webp
This is the bottom of the bullet.
 
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Your bottom photo is a little out of focus but I think I see "32 S&W Special" as the head stamp. Can you read it?
 
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Not a .22 Short, since it has a primer.
 
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The ball is .466 diameter and weighs 6.2g (.22oz)
The confederate "Richmond Laboratory" sharps bullet has a diameter of .528 length .957 and weight of 31.4g (1.110oz)
The bullet cartridge has a diameter of .342, length .949" and weight 7.7g (.27 oz)
I can not read the bottom of the bullet well. I hope this helps. I found another civil war style bullet to night with three rings and hollow bottom but I will get my daughter to weigh and measure it tomorrow and then post it.
 
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Your daughter is certainly a good apple. please thank her for all of us curious readers.
 
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VaNana, thank you for providing the bullet measurements in 1/100ths-inch... which prove the bullet identifications I gave you are correct. I can now tell you with certainty that the ball is an unfired one from a civil war era Colt .44 Revolver bulletmold. That type of bulletmold made a "conical" bullet and a roundball. See the photo below.

Civil war era bullets for revolvers were slightly larger than the gun's caliber (in this case, .44-inch), because a revolver bullet entered the back end of the gunbarrel, instead of its front end (which is called "muzzle-loading). If the lead ball (or bullet) was for a muzzleloading gun, it would be slightly smaller than the gun's caliber.

Your unfired Confederate "Richmond Laboratory" bullet was made for use in a Sharps Rifle/Carbine. Bullets for that gun were loaded into the back end of the gunbarrel, so unfired ones are slightly larger than its .52"-diameter bore.

Your bullet-cartridge's .949-inch length and diameter of .342-inch proves it is for a .32-caliber pistol. Because its powder-casing has the "primer" in the center of the base (called a centerfire primer), it is definitely from sometime after the end of the civil war. If you can clean the cartridge's flat bottom enough to tell us exactly what the lettering on it says, we'll be able to give you a specific time-period for it.
 

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Thanks again for taking the time to give me all the info. I am writing it down so I won't forget.

I am pretty sure the bottom of the cartridge says "Peters .32 S&W".
 
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Thank you fyrffytr1!
 
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Your .32 Smith & Wesson pistol cartridge was manufactured by the Peters Cartridge Company. That company was founded in 1887, and went out of business in 1944. So, there's the full "possible" time-range for your cartridge.
 
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Thanks again CannonballGuy! When they made the pistol cartridge was that whe they advertised smokeless?
 
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