PARATI DEFENDERE BADGE - Specialist Advice needed!

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Iron Patch said:
For about 8 years Asia is the only place I would not ship to, and if the person wrote and asked, depending on their history I would make a choice. All ended up being in favor of sending to them. I've sent a heck of a lot of packages to many places with so few issues I can't even remember one to quote because it wasn't a big deal. The money I've lost to fraud or packages being lost is such a small % I'd be a fool to spend any time on it, it would have cost me money to do so. Every business on the face of the earth has losses in one way or the other so it makes no sense when people post their problems as if Ebay is suppose to be perfect. I'm not implying you are one of these people, but if you read some of the posts they lose $10 for shipping and it's the end of the world. I know I'll lose money, it's a fact, so I just try to minimize it the best I can. Heck I've paid more in fees in one day than I've probably lost in 8 years.
My items were all $50 and up. If I cant get at least $50 it wasnt worth my time. If they didnt receive the package, I refunded the money. Im not saying that $200 would put me out of business but I dont like working for nothing.

All and all I love eBay. Its a great place to sell but be careful because there are fraudulant sellers on eBay and some countries will steal the mail. The lady at the US Post Office told me straight out that electronic items will never make it to their destination in certain countries. She says insurance will pay but I wonder. All they need to do is say it was delivered.

Some fraudulant sellers will straight out take your money and not deliver. Because you havent experienced them personally, doesnt mean they dont exist.

BTW the man in Italy didnt ask for his money back and didnt leave bad feedback. I think he received the item and tried to pull a fast one.
 

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Thanks for all the advice, I too am a veteran of ebay & know all its pitfalls as well as positives. Thats why I have a saying:
"Quality sells at crap prices, crap sells at quality prices". This is a general rule, & those who dare to get the rarist get them at great prices, I know!

I just hoped the experience on here might have known a better place, that I didn't.
 

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Crusader ~

Great find! I love any and all things Pirate!

Although I do not know what your Pirate item is worth, I could share volumes of examples of my personal experiences with eBay. All of which are hugely positive from the standpoint of both a buyer as well as a seller. However, there are numerous other online auction sites to consider. With "Heritage" being just one of the more reputable ones in my opinion. Here's their link. Check it out and see what you think.

SODABOB

http://www.ha.com/c/index.zx?ic=alt-Tab-Home-041408
 

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I know this isn't an Ebay thread :) but......

Italy has recently been scratched off my list of countries I ship to - two of my parcels in the last month have disappeared and lots of horror stories of an inept and corrupt postal officials.

Some countries in Asia are excellent - Singapore, Malaysia, Japan have great postal systems, South Africa is the only one I post to in Africa, South America is pretty much off the list. At a pinch I'll even sell to a New Zealander :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: - just kidding - the Kiwis are great..
 

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CRUSADER ~

I was doing some research related to a seperate TreasureNet thread and came across the website I have posted a link to below. The site is not necessarily specific to your particular item, but I found it most interesting nonetheless. Unless otherwise noted, all items on the site are for sale. It amazes me to see how much some of the listed items are worth. I just clicked on the "All Items" option and scrolled through their entire catalog. Great stuff! See what you think.

http://www.tortugatrading.com/default.asp

SODABOB
 

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SODABOTTLEBOB said:
CRUSADER ~

I was doing some research related to a seperate TreasureNet thread and came across the website I have posted a link to below. The site is not necessarily specific to your particular item, but I found it most interesting nonetheless. Unless otherwise noted, all items on the site are for sale. It amazes me to see how much some of the listed items are worth. I just clicked on the "All Items" option and scrolled through their entire catalog. Great stuff! See what you think.

http://www.tortugatrading.com/default.asp

SODABOB
They are asking $475 for a simple olive jar shard. ::)
 

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SOLVED - PARATI DEFEDERE BADGE

That badge is a pre-WWII / WWII US ARMY AIR CORPS 6th Bomb Group (VH - Very Heavy) [DUI] Distinctive Unit Insignia Crest
with Jean Lafitte? their Pirate mascot bearng the Parati Defendere motto - 'Always Ready' / 'Always Prepared to Defend (their Country)'

The 6th BG (VH) flew B-29s out of Tinian Island in the Marianas Islands during the War. My great uncle Captain Forest R. Johns (Woodstown, PA) was the Group Navigator and his plane went missing on 3-27-1945 during the first aerial mining mission of the Shimonoseki Strait between Honshu and Kyushu Japan for Operation Starvation. This exceptional crew (Capt. Paul A. Steel's) deserves a posthumous DFC - Distinguished Flying Cross for "heroism or extraordinary achievement while participating in an aerial flight, subsequent to November 11, 1918" as much as any in the War. USAF please contact me for details.

In Memoriam
[16.] March 27, 1945: Night Mining, Shimonoseki Straits

Thirty aircraft flew to the Straits, the western entrance to Japan's Inland Sea, and dropped mines at night by radar. Two crews were lost on this mission. . . . . Both crews were from the 40th Squadron. The airplane and crews of Lt William C. Grounds and Lt Paul A. Steel were lost over the target. ["Pirate's Log", pp. 34-35]

The entire crew of Lt William C. Grounds successfully bailed out of the stricken plane. They were captured and imprisoned at the Omori POW camp. All survived the war.

Airplane #??. [Serial #42-69675], [Lt. Paul A. Steel], "The Bad Penny", 40th Squadron

Five minutes after "Bombs Away" Lt Steel's crew sent a distress message telling of "one engine out", but this was the last report received. Twelve search sorties were flown by the Sixth with only negative results. ["Pirate's Log", p. 35]

The crew was never found.

Missing in Action:
1st Lt Paul A. Steel [A/C]
1st Lt Gayle W. Newman [Pilot]
Capt Forrest R. Johns [Group Navigator]
Capt Robert S. Miller [Group Bombardier]
2d Lt Ambrose F. Van Dyke [Engineer]
Sgt Peter J. Thomas [Radio]
Sgt Frank K. Ostberg [Radarman]
Sgt Charles S. Lyczko [CFC]
Sgt Charles R. Albert [L Gunner]
Sgt Daniel J. Lucarini [R Gunner]
Sgt Angel M. Ocasio [T Gunner]
[Source: "Pirate's Log", Appendix]

This crew is memorialized at the National Cemetery of the Pacific in Honolulu.

They also took part in the March 9, 1945 incendiary firebombing of Tokyo which destroyed 16.9 square miles of their Capital - No the Japanese still would not quit.


In November, 1944 the group was deployed to the Pacific Theater of Operations (PTO), being assigned to the XXI Bomber Command 313th Bombardment Wing, being stationed at North Field, Tinian, The group entered combat by flying navigational escort for a major attack force bound for Iwo Jima. The 6th then began engaging in very long range bombardment missions over the Japanese Home Islands, striking Tokyo and other major Japanese cities and facilities during daylight high-altitude bombing raids, with crippling, non-stop incendiary raids which destroyed lines of communication, supply, and numerous kamikaze bases.

On 25 May 1945, the 6th flew a low-altitude night mission through alerted enemy defenses to drop incendiary bombs on Tokyo, for which they received their first Distinguished Unit Citation. In addition to incendiary raids, the 6th also participated in mining operations. By mining harbors in Japan and Korea in July 1945, the group contributed to the blockade of the Japanese Empire earning their second Distinguished Unit Citation. The 6th's final World War II mission came on 14 August 1945, with the dropping of 500-pound general purpose bombs on the Marifu railroad yards at Iwakuni.


I have seen a few different markings/makers like: the most common N.S. Meyer New York & Massaro 6C3. J.R. Gaunt, Made in England

The 6th Bomb Group: Tinian Island

Originals in very good condition with lovely enamel, good patination, and intact screwbacks typically sell for $50-$100 on ebay.


contact me: Bob Mateljan at
arguswebster@yahoo.com
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