Plantation assortment / well done Arrowhead UPDATE

ModernMiner · Nov 21, 2009

I hit the plantation property that I've detected for a few years now. The soil was damp and I worked some areas very slowly. I had hit some of these same areas many times, but still managed some keeper, including a CW knapsack hook in the front yard!
I've been waiting for the critters and heat to go away so I could mark a well off in the woods so others wouldn't fall into it. It is about 20'+ deep, covered with weeds, hard to see, and wide open!

Before I cleaned around it I yelled down, "put the lotion in the basket!" , but no one answered back. :tongue3:

I took some before and after pictures for you to see.
Be carefull when you are out detecting old properties!

My finds were:

*CW knapsack hook (yard)

*1936 Merc (pasture) - It was a dark grey when I dug it up. :dontknow:

*No date Buff nickel (yard)

*Railroad lock key (yard)- It says "R & G RR- S" (Raleigh Gaston Railroad), and "Ritchie & Son - Newark, NJ."

*1800's lock (yard)

*Victorian era "sterling" silver decorative piece (yard) - Jewelry piece? :dontknow:

*One broken arrowhead, and one quartz possible arrowhead (?) :icon_scratch:

Is the quartz one an arrowhead

?

UPDATE
I posted the arrowheads in the Indian Artifacts forum and received the following info:
Hi MM, You have a Savanah River on the left, made from Rhyolite & a Quartz blade, looking at the edges I would say it was used for more a sawing action, than slicing. Started as a preform (for a Guilford) & they just added the serrations?
Nice finds. Good luck with your next hunt.
Molly..

Thanks for looking,
MM

BuckleBoy · Nov 22, 2009

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MM, that's a wonderful assortment of finds. I like the silver Victorian piece--and the J-hook is in great condition...but I think the best find of the hunt is the railroad lock key. Usually the keys have a decent price tag since all the locks in one railroad line could be opened with a single key. (i.e., there were many locks and comparatively few keys made.) I don't know anything about that railroad line, but that could be a very nice find to a local collector.

Best Wishes,

Buckles

Ricky1601 aka pull tab king · Nov 22, 2009

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congrats on the nice finds and good job on marking off the old well. thanks for sharing and hh

taropatch · Nov 22, 2009

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some interesting finds there. nice job. would there be some stuff at the bottom of the well? move fast for winter is nearly upon us.

Ifoundit69 · Nov 22, 2009

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Nice finds , I imagaine they will be alot more there , I see you have a box car seal as well .

ModernMiner · Nov 22, 2009

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tinpan said:
Hi MM Nice finds and your stirling silver looks too be a FOB.Fobs were popular between 1830-1930
Heres another example

tinpan

Thanks Tin,
I'm still leaning towards jewelry related, because all the FOB's I've dug in the past were solid and heavy. This piece is is more of a pressed lightweight silver. :dontknow:

-MM-

{CS Sentinel} said:
Nice Digs Doug! I like that J Hook and the lock....they look similar to the ones I found at DIV

Thanks Josh.
Always a good day when you find CW relics. The Union troops camped on this property at the end of the CW.
-Doug-

VOL1266-X said:
More nice finds MM!!! I like the RR key-that's a nice local relic. Is that your first CW knapsack hook? HH.

VOL,
That RR key was a very cool find. My first one. As far as knapsack hooks, I've found two or three in the past just down the road about 1/4 mile where they scraped for a new road. That's where I found the camp area with carved & dropped bullets, buttons, belt keepers, etc.
-Doug-

Breezie said:
Way to go Doug! When I saw the Plantation House, I thought it looks like every antibellium house in this area. Where in NC are you? Breezie

Hi Breezie,
This plantation house is in Wake County.
Thanks Doug

72cheyenne said:
Great finds Doug! I haven't posted on many of your finds lately, but wanted to say kudos to you for marking that open well. Falling in one of those would sure ruin somebody's day.

BTW, I bet the lock and RR key are mates. Give the lock a little electrolysis and see if it's marked the same as your key.

72,
You were probably just busy polishing that silver dollar you won from me in that contest. :laughing9:

I'll be giving this lock some electrolysis to clean it up so it can be displayed. Too bad the key hole cover is busted off, as they are usually engraved with something.
-Doug-

rodgerdodger said:
Congrats on those finds Doug. That old well should get filled or fenced in.

RD,
I agree. It is right next to where an old house used to be in the woods. The old foundation stones are still there. I'm glad the owner showed me where this well was when I first started detecting the property. It's bugged me ever since, so I thought I would at least mark it off so no one got hurt.
-Doug-

BuckleBoy said:
MM, that's a wonderful assortment of finds. I like the silver Victorian piece--and the J-hook is in great condition...but I think the best find of the hunt is the railroad lock key. Usually the keys have a decent price tag since all the locks in one railroad line could be opened with a single key. (i.e., there were many locks and comparatively few keys made.) I don't know anything about that railroad line, but that could be a very nice find to a local collector.

Best Wishes,
Buckles

Thanks BB,
I've found numerous seals from that RR too over the past years. The Raleigh & Gaston Railroad ran very close to this property in the old days, as did the old plank road. That's probably why I've found such a nice variety at this place.
Here are a few pictures I found on a RR site. The lock is ffrom a different RR, but is made by the Ritchie & Sons - Newark company like my key. You can see even the lettering looks the same.
Have a great week buddy,
Doug

jgas · Nov 22, 2009

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Another fine hunt Doug. I love the looks of those older home sites. Still spring like weather up north here. Still getting out and hunting....Keep pushing that warmer weather north buddy :laughing9:

Congrats on the digs. jgas

ModernMiner · Nov 22, 2009

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jgas said:
Another fine hunt Doug. I love the looks of those older home sites. Still spring like weather up north here. Still getting out and hunting....Keep pushing that warmer weather north buddy Congrats on the digs. jgas

Thanks Jgas. :icon_thumleft:

I still had a few die hard mosquitos yesterday that just wouldn't quit.

As long as the snakes & ticks are gone I'm happy.

-Doug-

Ifoundit69 said:
Nice finds , I imagaine they will be alot more there , I see you have a box car seal as well .

Thanks Ifoundit,
Yep, I have about 20 of those now, including some from that Raleigh & Gaston RR.
-MM-

taropatch said:
some interesting finds there. nice job. would there be some stuff at the bottom of the well? move fast for winter is nearly upon us.

Tar,
That's exactly what I was wondering. I bet there has to be some old bottles & things at the bottom of that well. I'm just to chicken to find out. :laughing9:

-MM-

Ricky1601 aka pull tab king said:
congrats on the nice finds and good job on marking off the old well. thanks for sharing and hh

Thanks Ricky.
-MM-

Bavaria Mike · Nov 22, 2009

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Nice hunt and finds MM! Good that you secured the well area, almost looks like a cellar hole. Looks dangerously tempting, LOL. HH, Mike

rjw4law · Nov 22, 2009

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Just call me impressed.

ModernMiner · Nov 22, 2009

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Bavaria Mike said:
Nice hunt and finds MM! Good that you secured the well area, almost looks like a cellar hole. Looks dangerously tempting, LOL. HH, Mike

Thanks Mike.
I saw some stones around the top of the well under the dirt around the lip, but the inner walls are smooth like a sandstone type finish, yet not concrete. :icon_scratch:

I would love to knows what's in there. :icon_scratch:

-MM-

rjw4law said:
Just call me impressed.

Thanks RJW4law. :icon_thumleft:

-MM-

thrillathahunt · Nov 22, 2009

Hey MM,

Some good stuff you got there. Do you notice how much more powerful the Vaquero is compared to the Silver umax?

ModernMiner · Nov 22, 2009

thrillathahunt said:
Hey MM,

Some good stuff you got there. Do you notice how much more powerful the Vaquero is compared to the Silver umax?

Thrilla,
I haven't tried out the Vaquero yet. I just got it this week, but I'm hoping I see a big difference. :thumbsup:

-MM-

Iron Patch · Nov 22, 2009

Today I had just planned to post the silver piece of jewelry I found, like yours above, but for some reason I started to dig and it's pretty cool what I found out.

I found the silver piece of the bracelet marked Carrie in 2000 at the very first place my diggin bud Ironhorse and I had ever hunted. It's a historic site but he was able to get permission from the new owners because they were redoing the lawn. Up until that point it was a house, now it's an Inn, and since those couple of hunts we've never been back, and quite honestly I hadn't thought much about the finds until today.

So I read the history on the Inn, which turns out was owned by three different families, two of which predated my find. So I searched the owner during the Victorian era and it was Benjamin & Mary T. ... and guess what, they had a daughter named CAROLINE "Carrie" :-X

At this point I thought my mission was accomplished until I read that Mary R. had been from Rochester NY (was married there too)

That instantly made me think of my other neat find from there, a 1911 Shriners medallion from the 37th session in Rochester NY. I always wondered how such an odd ball thing had turned up and now I know. She had a brother who died before 1911, so right now I'm thinking it might have been one of his two sons who made the trip here shortly after the meeting. I suppose it could also be her husband (owner of the Inn) who maybe became part of the Shiner organization and went to NY for that meeting. I think I can eventually figure it out but that will be left for another day. Anyway, I never would have known this story without this post going on with the silver bracelet piece.

Below is pictures of my similar find, the early home/inn (1880), Shriners Medallion, and image from that very session in 1911.

ModernMiner · Nov 22, 2009

IP,
Awesome story! Thanks for that post & pictures. That is so cool that you can actually trace your silver piece down to who the owner was. :icon_thumleft:

I can't believe how similar our two silver pieces are.

The front of that Shiner piece is hilarious. I still remember as a kid being scared to death at our 4th of July parade by a huge scary guy in the Shiners Club dressed up an wielding a sword around like that. He would walk up to the kids and scare the poo out of them, including me. That was back in the early 60's, and they still do it today. Different scary guy though of course. :laughing9:

Thanks,
MM

Iron Patch · Nov 22, 2009

ModernMiner said:
IP,
Awesome story! Thanks for that post & pictures. That is so cool that you can actually trace your silver piece down to who the owner was. I can't believe how similar our two silver pieces are.
The front of that Shiner piece is hilarious. I still remember as a kid being scared to death at our 4th of July parade by a huge scary guy in the Shiners Club dressed up an wielding a sword around like that. He would walk up to the kids and scare the poo out of them, including me. That was back in the early 60's, and they still do it today. Different scary guy though of course.
Thanks,
MM

yeah seems funny it took 9 years to know the story but pretty cool.

tinpan · Nov 23, 2009

Hi MM and great research iron patch. On the other side of the silver fob is the name of H Watson who won the under 12,s mile swim race for Camp Hill School in 1904 .His Grandfather was a famous gold miner. John Boyd Watson .Came to Australia in 1841 aged 12 and when went to the Calfornia gold rush of 1849.Returned Australia and went to the gold rush of Bendigo in 1851.Worked a claim at the 6th hill of White Hills and made enough gold to buy stocks in mining claims in better grounds. Brought 3 mines to form the Kentie Mine Claim. had a family with 5 children of which Henry John was one of 13 grandchildren.Heres some pics of his grand father and the mine claim ,family home and gold keep.And some other info.

tinpan Can give more info if required

ModernMiner · Nov 23, 2009

Tin,
Great story! Thanks for the post & photos. I wish my find had some history behind it like your FOB and IP's silver piece. :icon_thumleft:

Congrats,
MM

SkyPirate · Nov 23, 2009

Hey Doug, Nice finds! Great job marking off the well. I have not seen you at the meetings lately have you been sick? Joe

ModernMiner · Nov 23, 2009

rtde3 said:
Really nice mix of finds M.M.!
Good job on marking the well!

Thanks Rob.
No LC yet, but I'm trying.

-Doug-

SkyPirate said:
Hey Doug, Nice finds! Great job marking off the well. I have not seen you at the meetings lately have you been sick? Joe

Joe,
I decided the club thing just wasn't for me. Detecting season is here, so I'm going to devote as much time as possible out in the field now. It was great meeting everyone though.
-Doug-

Nana40 · Nov 24, 2009

We have so many open wells around here, that Lisa and I decided it would be a good idea to store a rope in the back of the Tahoe... along with all of our other provisions. :P

Super keepers there and LOVE that sterling item, MM! :icon_pirat: