Rare North Carolina button, confederate?

crabstang44 · Mar 10, 2016

Has been mostly identified, but don't know who used it. If anybody has any new info please let me know thanks, was found in new Bern nc

crabstang44 · Mar 14, 2016

Iron Patch said:
That's not patina, it's corrosion which is obstructing what appears to be close to 100% gilt. There's a huge difference.

yea i think almost all the gilt is on the front

WHADIFIND · Mar 14, 2016

I'm opposed to just jumping to clean anything, let alone something that may be of such historical significance. But, I'm also aware that we have a bit of an obligation to things we find. Corrosion is corrosion and it will continue. Even if it's in a very pretty display with a spotlight on it.

We need to at least care for the historically important items or get them to people who can and will. Trouble is, most cleaning methods can destroy. So, we need to proceed cautiously. The object is to get the piece in as nice condition as possible and then, somehow, seal the item so it can be enjoyed for generations to come.

Pieces that are really rare, need the touch of someone who is extremely familiar with the procedure of restoration. Many, here, know how to "clean" items very, very well. But, I dare say, there are only a few who know the complete cycle. The finishing, sealing one.

Just my take on the whole cleaning scenario. Good luck on the process.

Metal Magnet · Mar 14, 2016

I am not a CW detectorist b/se of the area I live, but I have great respect for the relics and history. I also have great respect for the people chiming in on how important your find is. A hearty congrats to you!!!!

crabstang44 · Mar 14, 2016

so i took the leap and tried naval jelly, and the results are......

hogge · Mar 14, 2016

Iron Patch said:
What a great find! And not sure what the banner people are waiting for.

Just for the record, anyone who offers to buy it will say not to clean it.... so they can.

An absolutely true statement. Make no mistake......this button WILL be cleaned by either the buyer or someone else. If the finder is not educated on what to do then he shouldn't touch it. Congratulations on, what seems to be, an ultra rare find! Hogge

crabstang44 · Mar 14, 2016

The results, cleaned with naval jelly

OutdoorAdv · Mar 14, 2016

crabstang44 said:
The results, cleaned with naval jelly

Excellent job. Looks great.

shoague · Mar 14, 2016

Good Job on the clean. I would have been shaking like a leaf.

shoague · Mar 14, 2016

Can I ask a question? Why is this not a Banner? as much as everyone has gone on about it. I am fairly new and get confused as to the selection process. Rare, great shape, verified... What is missing? Is it because of junior status?

crabstang44 · Mar 14, 2016

shoague said:
Can I ask a question? Why is this not a Banner? as much as everyone has gone on about it. I am fairly new and get confused as to the selection process. Rare, great shape, verified... What is missing? Is it because of junior status?

I don't know really anything about the banner stuff but a lot of people said they vote for it, so thanks everybody.

hogge · Mar 14, 2016

That came out REAL NICE!!!! Like another poster said.....aluminum jelly is not as strong as naval jelly. I use naval, but am getting some aluminum to try. Got an 1840 Ma. Volunteers Militia button on Sunday. Lots of gold gilt. Cleaned up pretty good with naval jelly. Will post in am.

Tnmountains · Mar 15, 2016

I am not going to suggest cleaning if you are not comfortable doing it but here is a gilt button I did before and after. But it was not a rare button at all.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/c...inum-jelly-gilt-buttons-cleaning-results.html

BFR · Mar 15, 2016

Congrats!!!!!

BFR

relic lover · Mar 15, 2016

shoague said:
Can I ask a question? Why is this not a Banner? as much as everyone has gone on about it. I am fairly new and get confused as to the selection process. Rare, great shape, verified... What is missing? Is it because of junior status?

I think there is something about new members not being eligible. There is a sticky thread somewhere explaining there somewhat flexible criteria for Banner.

relic lover · Mar 15, 2016

Okay I just read the banners and how they work thread. You need to be a member at the time you made the find. It helps if you're not a new member. You need to have a background story on how you made the find. Excetera excetera. That having been said the find itself is definitely top notch Banner material I don't think anyone would doubt that. Congratulations on incredible dig. And kudos to you for not damaging it while digging it or cleaning it.

johnnyblaze · Mar 15, 2016

To bad it seems banner worthy..

~Blaze

crabstang44 · Mar 15, 2016

you mean i cant get banner just because im new? that doesnt seem fair, i want everybody to be able to see it

screwynewy · Mar 15, 2016

crabstang44 said:
I don't know really anything about the banner stuff but a lot of people said they vote for it, so thanks everybody.

crabstang44 said:
you mean i cant get banner just because im new? that doesnt seem fair, i want everybody to be able to see it

Funny how disappointing it can be not be qualify for banner when you didn't know anything about it before today :tongue3:

. That being said - I agree it is a silly rule but that's the way it is. Banner or not it is an amazing find and one to be extremely proud of. Congrats!

stewielouie · Mar 15, 2016

Could be as simple as giving the back story about when where and how you found it. Details, we all love the details!!! Especially the Mods, they love them too

crabstang44 · Mar 15, 2016

screwynewy said:
Funny how disappointing it can be not be qualify for banner when you didn't know anything about it before today . That being said - I agree it is a silly rule but that's the way it is. Banner or not it is an amazing find and one to be extremely proud of. Congrats!

i meant i dont know how the voting and choosing and all works, obviously i see the nice items at the top of the page called banners