Real or fake reale bit?

[s1u2r3f4]

Hi, found this on a ne. Fla. Beach. Weighs about 5 grams and is about 18mm across. Seems like an 8 reale bit, but how do you tell a copy? Thanks!

 

[coachbedford]

I say almost certainly genuine-- what's more, it appears to be a Pillar type 8 reales (cut of course) of Ferdinand VI(?) Great find

 

[coinman123]

WOW! Incredible find, the sea water gave it that unusual appearance. I am almost certain it is real. I would only dream of finding that.

Probably 1817

 

[coachbedford]

actually, by the shape of the shield on the reverse, that gives it away as a 1732-71 type.

 

[flyadive]

Looks to small for an eight reale, perhaps a four?
It was minted in Mexico City!
Nice find

 

[ARC]

Which detector hit these ?

 

[Mackaydon]

Fernando VI didn't come into power until 1746, so the piece postdates 1745.
To determine the denomination,take the average of the two radii and double it. If 16mm=1/2 R; if 20mm=1R, if 27mm=2R under F VII; or /28mm=2R under F-VI. If 34 mm=8R during F VI's reign or 4R under F VII's reign; if 40 mm=8 R under F VII's reign.
Don......

 

[s1u2r3f4]

Which detector hit these ?

Sov gt

 

[s1u2r3f4]

Just had a local treasure guy look at it and he said fake. Bummer

 

[Mackaydon]

Get a second opinion........ first test it for silver.
Don...

 

[capsmith]

Its looks real to me. I Would like to see a picture of the round edge and the cut edges.

 

[s1u2r3f4]

Here are the edges

 

[coachbedford]

I still say genuine also...I would get multiple in-person expert opinions. If it's fake, someone did a REALLY good job AND went to an awful lot of trouble to fool someone with a piece that is historically valuable, but not significantly valuable monetarily.

 

[CRUSADER]

Just had a local treasure guy look at it and he said fake. Bummer

Well don't ask their opinion anymore, its real as they come.

 

[Aussie]

Great find.....and the sov gt. Fantastic beach machine.