Roman coins

[robfinds]

Well been back to the hammered gold field, didn't find anymore but I will keep searching you never know. What I did find though was 10 roman coins in one area of the field. Roman bronze coins of this type are fairly common finds, makes you wonder why they lost so many of these coins ?. Also had a worn George 111 copper and a lead cloth seal late medieval. As I said I'm going to keep searching this field for a while yet.
ps. will post some pics. of the hammered gold coin when it comes back from straightening.

HH Robert.

 

[shaun7]

at the risk of sounding stupid again

why does everyone talk in terms of soldiers wages
surely not all the romans here were soldiers?

Not all shaun......but they also had a huge entourage with them who required payment.

so did british money become obsolete when the romans came?

 

[Silver Searcher]

at the risk of sounding stupid again

why does everyone talk in terms of soldiers wages
surely not all the romans here were soldiers?

Not all shaun......but they also had a huge entourage with them who required payment.

so did british money become obsolete when the romans came?

The Celts buried it if they had any sence, for Crusader and his Dad to find later

 

[shaun7]

at the risk of sounding stupid again

why does everyone talk in terms of soldiers wages
surely not all the romans here were soldiers?

Not all shaun......but they also had a huge entourage with them who required payment.

so did british money become obsolete when the romans came?

The Celts buried it if they had any sence, for Crusader and his Dad to find later

or me on crusaders land

i don't think i'd get away in one piece though

 

[Master Sarge]

Nice coins!!!

 

[Ed-NH]

It is amazing how many coins the Romans lost. I love seeing your finds 8)

 

[lasttoknow (Tim)]

Very nice...

 

[CRUSADER]

at the risk of sounding stupid again

why does everyone talk in terms of soldiers wages
surely not all the romans here were soldiers?

Not all shaun......but they also had a huge entourage with them who required payment.

so did british money become obsolete when the romans came?

No, because the Iron Age (Celtic) people of Britain did not have a monetary system it was all barter. The Celtic coins were only used for the following:
Druids - for ritual purposes
Chieftains - to pay mercenaries (they took it back to Europe to spend)
Anywhere the Romans went they wanted to Tax people, thats why the monetary system exists. The Celts lived differently & wealth was in Cattle & skills etc...

After all if you were a starving Iron Age person & I gave you a Gold Coin you would laugh because you can't eat it.

However there was a lot of trade between Roman for Wine & oil etc which we used to swap slaves & other goods for. (some of this exchange would include coins)

 

[shaun7]

at the risk of sounding stupid again

why does everyone talk in terms of soldiers wages
surely not all the romans here were soldiers?

Not all shaun......but they also had a huge entourage with them who required payment.

so did british money become obsolete when the romans came?

No, because the Iron Age (Celtic) people of Britain did not have a monetary system it was all barter. The Celtic coins were only used for the following:
Druids - for ritual purposes
Chieftains - to pay mercenaries (they took it back to Europe to spend)
Anywhere the Romans went they wanted to Tax people, thats why the monetary system exists. The Celts lived differently & wealth was in Cattle & skills etc...

After all if you were a starving Iron Age person & I gave you a Gold Coin you would laugh because you can't eat it.

However there was a lot of trade between Roman for Wine & oil etc which we used to swap slaves & other goods for. (some of this exchange would include coins)

thanks cru, i can remember you telling me that on the way to detecting!

i must have been half asleep

 

[Silver Searcher]

at the risk of sounding stupid again

why does everyone talk in terms of soldiers wages
surely not all the romans here were soldiers?

Not all shaun......but they also had a huge entourage with them who required payment.

so did british money become obsolete when the romans came?

No, because the Iron Age (Celtic) people of Britain did not have a monetary system it was all barter. The Celtic coins were only used for the following:
Druids - for ritual purposes
Chieftains - to pay mercenaries (they took it back to Europe to spend)
Anywhere the Romans went they wanted to Tax people, thats why the monetary system exists. The Celts lived differently & wealth was in Cattle & skills etc...

After all if you were a starving Iron Age person & I gave you a Gold Coin you would laugh because you can't eat it.

However there was a lot of trade between Roman for Wine & oil etc which we used to swap slaves & other goods for. (some of this exchange would include coins)

Yea .......I don't think money had the same meaning then as it did later on, a lot of the Gold Sater deposits found have been associated with Rich traders dealing in slaves, sword blades were actually used before the minting of money, but Cattle was Mankinds first working capital.

 

[yo6oej]

 

[allen]

we wish those coins was common here in the states !!

 

[artorius]

Hi Rob,

Nice coins!

These all seem to be 4th century bronzes, and one reason 4th century Roman bronzes are common is that they were low value coins when issued, and often were traded by the bagfull to make purchases. This was not true of the earlier imperial coins, which included large copper and brass coins tied to a reliable silver coinage. The economic crisis of the 3rd century caused a complete breakdown of the earlier coinage, with the old larger ronze denominations being dropped as the silver coins became so debased that they were little more than bronze coins themselves. Attempts were made beginning around 300 to restore a reliable silver and bronze coinage, but the continuous pressure to debase coins caused the coins repeatedly to drop back to diminutive sizes. And these coins were issued by the truckload.

To give a comparison, one rarely encounters 1rst century regular issue Roman bronzes that weigh less than 10 grams. After the early 300s, most Roman bronzes weigh about 3 grams or less. By the end of the century, the most common Roman bronzes weighed in at a little over a gram, or less.

With tiny coins like that, one can see how so many were needed to make purchases.

artorius

 

[michigan michael]

Whoa! Those are some beautiful recoveries!
~ MM

 

[DavidBeard]

Wow Rob, Great finds - If only I could find a field like that in Derbyshire!
All the best.

 

[Aquila]

Very nice, congrats!