SECRET OF THE MASONS MEDALLION ??? HELP !

christ-first · May 12, 2010

SECRET OF THE MASON'S MEDALLION HELP !

I hunted the grounds of an old masonic lodge for about an hour and a half and found absolutely nothing but pull tabs and memorial cents. Just as I decided to call it quits, I ran my coil past an area close to the front steps, which I had supposedly already gone over, and I got a signal. Finally, after digging down 8" in beautiful pristine rich soil, I saw this thing at the bottom of the hole. I have exhausted all of my resources to find out what it is and what it means. The local masonic/Shriner's temple tell me that they cannot reveal what it means or it's purpose because it's the secret of the mason's. :icon_scratch:

Anybody got any ideas ?

hammong · May 12, 2010

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christ-first said:
The local masonic/Shriner's temple tell me that they cannot reveal what it means or it's purpose because it's the secret of the mason's. Anybody got any ideas ?

The 3-sided triangle relates to the 3 degrees of masonry, the sword may relate to the emblem and duties of the tyler. Could be a tyler's jewel? Hard to say.

Mr Tuff · May 12, 2010

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looks sweet :icon_thumleft:

nice find!!! MR TUFF

christ-first · May 13, 2010

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Thanks Hammong and Mr. Tuff for the responses. I am real surprised that no-one else responded to this post. Oh well. :dontknow:

ivan salis · May 13, 2010

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its a tylers jewel or symbol of office ( a tyler is a "officer" of the lodge the "jewel" or symbol of office normally worn around his neck-- he guards the doors to prevent --unauthorized entry or "eves droppers" thus the "sword"-- clearly its a masonic item -- and I sure the local masonic lodge would like it for use within the lodge --in its "proper" place and function

as it is a masonic item * with masonic symbols upon it * they will not speak to you about it -- the rules are very strict about such matters -- masonic signs and symbols are NOT to be spoken of to non members -- some folks "fish" for information about the masons --so the rules are no speaking to non members about masonic items that have masonic symbols upon them.

i only tell you this in hopes that in understanding what it is ---that you might return it to your local masonic lodge -- where it rightfully should be at . -- these items are seldom if ever out in the wild --the "officers" symbols of office are normally kept within the lodge and passed down each year from the "old officers" to the "new set" as the new members are elected to "office" --- its very odd that you would find such a item outside of the lodge .

christ-first · May 13, 2010

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Thanks Ivan Salis for the interesting information. I appreciate your response.

Pull_tab_mike · May 13, 2010

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Cool find, but you should return it. it belongs to them and I would think they would be greatfull that you returned it.

HH

PTM

master mason · May 14, 2010

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yes it is the tylers jewel . however we can talk of masonry we just cant tell everything we know unless in the lodge or after you have been tested (so to speak). if your local lodge wont help find the proper place for it go to my web site www.palmettoscapes.net and at the top right hand corner there will be a square and compassclick on it go to grand lodge then look for your states grand lodge ie... Grand lodge of ( your state here). or try to talk to the master of a local lodge he will get it in the proper place i PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bikerboyzx6r · May 14, 2010

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Hello mate, sorry im late in here....

My Stepfather & Grandfather are mason's in Oxford, UK. I will MMS him the picture now and see what he knows. He will tell me & I will pass info on to you :thumbsup:

Cheers
Dan

RPG · May 14, 2010

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Nice find christ-first. Post this in the "what is it" forum. The guys that frequent that forum are good at id'ing items.

What part of Alabama are you from?

snake35 · May 16, 2010

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Great find! Keep it and display it. The Masons can order another from the secret store.

Mutt · May 16, 2010

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snake35 said:
Great find! Keep it and display it. The Masons can order another from the secret store.

You crack me up 35 !!! Best reply yet.

Yeah, throw it on eBay and let's see how "scared" it really is !!! Probably bring $4 or more.

Tank69 · May 16, 2010

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snake35 said:
Great find! Keep it and display it. The Masons can order another from the secret store.

lol the secret store :laughing9:

WilliamBoyd · May 16, 2010

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Send it to author Dan Brown.

He can prove that it holds a map to locate the Holy Grail.

ivan salis · May 16, 2010

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mutt -- you are clearly very confused -- sacred ( religiously "special" --is not "scared" or afraid) also you are confused because you think that for a "item" to be "special" it must be worth lots of money . --- big mistake -- since the masons are NOT a religion of their own their items are not "sacred" but however their items do have "special meaning" but only within their "proper" context use in the lodge ---outside of the lodge --its just a "interesting bit of masonic metal of low fiscal value"

thus its "true"value is its use within the lodge in its "proper" context --not as a item to be bartered and sold. --- not every thing of value --has a "price tag" attached to it --how much is your best "freind" worth? --or a "loved one"? or a few minutes of time to a dying man? ---somethings are "priceless".

tuatara · May 16, 2010

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Send it to author Dan Brown.

He can prove that it holds a map to locate the Holy Grail.

Bingo

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We do! We do!
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We do! We do!
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
We do! We do!
Who robs cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!

NKDigger · May 17, 2010

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ivan salis said:
mutt -- you are clearly very confused -- sacred ( religiously "special" --is not "scared" or afraid) also you are confused because you think that for a "item" to be "special" it must be worth lots of money . --- big mistake -- since the masons are NOT a religion of their own their items are not "sacred" but however their items do have "special meaning" but only within their "proper" context use in the lodge ---outside of the lodge --its just a "interesting bit of masonic metal of low fiscal value"

thus its "true"value is its use within the lodge in its "proper" context --not as a item to be bartered and sold. --- not every thing of value --has a "price tag" attached to it --how much is your best "freind" worth? --or a "loved one"? or a few minutes of time to a dying man? ---somethings are "priceless".

Ivan,

Sir, very well put. I agree with you 100 percent.

NKdigger

snake35 · May 18, 2010

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The Masons are a mens club, not a church! I buy and sell quite a bit of Mason memorabilia. Sometimes a mason will ask why I have something. I tell them the same thing will happen to their masonic stuff, that when they pass on their kids will put it in a box and sell it at the garage sale. The same will happen to us treasure hunters. What we hold dear will mean nothing to our children.

Ramapirate · May 18, 2010

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Looks like an Elu...

ivan salis · May 18, 2010

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masonic items owned by masons --should be donated to their lodge upon their deaths * --if they have no sons or daughters or wives than are masonic members to properly pass them onto -- to prevent them from becoming yard / estate sale or "flea market" items --

since the items are really only "special"within their "proper" context as masonic items --for use by masons.-- outside of its "rightful" context --its just a "interesting" bit of metal with masonic markings on it. --and thus not highly valuible cash wize.