Dell Winders said:
I have consistently used reason in my thoughts towards dowsing. I rely on basic scientific principles in these arguments. I've always hoped to see a valid demonstration of dowsing, but this has never materialized. Does all of this scare you, Dell, because....welcome to the wonderful world of Logic!!
O.K. Af, if you are the Scientific expert on Dowsing, show me the conclusive Scientific studies that state that humans are not capable of psychic ability, and that psychic ability is not centered within the sub-conscious part of our brain?
I've proven many times in front of witnesses the positive results of Mental, meta-physical Dowsing from great distances.. I posted true examples for you to see. Yet, you continue to infer that I am not doing as I say I am doing? Why is that?
If you can't accept this established fact, then your wonderful world of imaginary logic is seriously flawed. Dell
Now, didn't you, or some other dowser here, once tell me that dowsing is not psychic? So it
is a psychic ability? Really?
Then you'll have to take that up with Art and Mike and the rest of the guys here, since they all claim that dowsing happens when a material in the ground somehow transmits it's location to their dowsing rods. Or their heads, or something. This whole thing is so convoluted it's tough to remember how many times each of you has contradicted yourselves and your fellow dowsers.
And you call me a "Scientific expert on Dowsing" do you? But, earlier, didn't you say that no one here understands the subconscience so we can't possibly explain dowsing? Which includes you, I assume? That is what you meant when you said this,
"I have not studied the human brain, so I cannot explain what makes Dowsing work..." right?
But, oddly enough, you have attempted to explain dowsing many times. How could you have done this, when you don't understand it at all??
And as far as you telling me stories about your great dowsing adventures, you can't tell anyone what's actually happening when you dowse, which causes your stories to be a bit unbelievable. How can stories like this be taken with more than a grain of salt when you have dowsers giving you explanations about dowsing like these:
Inert metals in the ground decay and sends out a signal that the dowsing rod responds to.
Your body gives off waves of energy that bounce off gold in the ground and reflect back to a dowsing rod.
Dowsing is a psychic ability.
If you stick a film canister with a silver dime in it on your dowsing rod, the rod will point to other silver miles away.
The Earth itself is resonating, which in turn causes gold in the ground to resonate, which in turn makes a signal that a dowsing rod can sense.
I'm not calling you a liar, no matter what you
want everyone reading this to believe. You're only trying to discredit me. It's a trait common among dowsers; something I've discovered. Discredit the naysayers so the incredulous tales the dowsers tell seem more believeable. But if you call someone a liar without proof, you're no better for it, trust me.
You've really gotten down to the meat of this subject. No one understands dowsing, right? You've said this so I'll take you at your word. But, if this is true, and you never lie or stretch the truth so it must be, then why do so many people attempt to explain how it works? And in their explanations they use scientific terms, terms which are without fail used incorrectly. But when they do this, it discredits the dowsers, because the terms they've used are invariably used incorrectly, and proof of this is available to anyone who takes the time to do any reading.
Of course, when this is pointed out to a dowser, they simply revert back to the old standbys of "close-minded" and "science will prove me right someday" and "you don't understand because you're a negative person." When, in fact, all this other person did was to show then that they were using scientific terms incorrectly.
Dowsers have given themselves a negative reputation by doing this. You can't tell me you're surprised by this, though, can you Dell? You've proven this yourself with the post I'm responding to. When you've run out of false explanations, you just ask for proof that you are well aware doesn't exist to justify your point of view. I could show you psychic studies all day long that show humans aren't capable of psychic abilities, but you'll just tell me that the studies were flawed because they chose the wrong people, or they performed the wrong type of test. Then you'll produce a test by some group with dubious credentials. A group, most likely, that has some stake or will profit from, producing a test that show positive results. The irony of the fact that this study has never been duplicated will miss your limited field of vision, and you'll go on thinking that you're absolutely correct.
Do you want to know what you
really believe you're correct, Dell? It's because your mental blinders keep you from seeing anything you don't want to see. I could produce hundreds of studies and you'll ignore them all,
because you don't want to see them.
