Signal Lines

[boogeyman]

Jeeze, can you guys agree on anything?

"You can only dowse on the cardinal directions. No, you can dowse in any direction...."

"You have to be a great dowser to find gold in a gold field. No, it's easy to find gold in a gold field...."

And to think I believed you hacks could actually tell me how dowsing works.... Roll Eyes

LINK:http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,20200.0.html

Jeeze, Af, you aren't paying attention. It's been repeated over and over again for years that methodologies used for Dowsing is subjective to each individuals thinking and environment. One size does not fit all. Here you are complaining that you have too many methods to choose from.

If you have an interest in learning to Dowse as you seem to claim You have the option to thoroughly test each dowsers methods, learn for yourself, and select what works best for you.

Complaining and ranting about what Dowsers do successfully, and have tried to help you learn, only demonstrates your lack of interest in learning Dowsing, and your continued intentions to be disruptive and antagonistic with asinine comments about others.

Certainly, you have been on this forum long enough to have learned to Dowse from the information and knowledge that has been provided, if indeed you had any interest in learning to Dowse successfully. If you haven't practiced and learned the best method that works for you by now, you might as well give up on yourself as a lost cause. Your inability to learn is NOT the fault, or responsibility of anyone else posting on this forum, so quit placing blame.

Sharing your own personal experience with what you have learned during your own Dowsing practice sessions would be productive, and given in the spirit of others on this forum to be helpful to others who are interested in learning and sharing their own Dowsing experiences.

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND" Dell

And as I've pointed out to you several times, apparently only certain people can dowse, and that's it's not a trait that everyone possesses.

Or, maybe anyone can do it with practice.....

You see, I've read all the posts set forth by dowsers and there's no agreement to anything about dowsing.....

Why does everything have to fit into your idea of dowsing? Example my golf swing works fantastic for me but not for you. Does that mean your swing is right or does it mean mine is the right swing? Would you think that the people who supposedly can't dowse might be sabotaging their efforts by their beliefs or non- beliefs? The whole world isn't on & off black & white.

 

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[aarthrj3811]

Why does everything have to fit into your idea of dowsing? Example my golf swing works fantastic for me but not for you. Does that mean your swing is right or does it mean mine is the right swing? Would you think that the people who supposedly can't dowse might be sabotaging their efforts by their beliefs or non- beliefs? The whole world isn't on & off black & white.

You have hit the nail on the head…I post about how dowsing works for me. The other people here post about how it works for them. We all know it works and for most people that is a fact.
In my opinion a forum is an exchange of information…Art

 

[ClonedSIM]

Jeeze, can you guys agree on anything?

"You can only dowse on the cardinal directions. No, you can dowse in any direction...."

"You have to be a great dowser to find gold in a gold field. No, it's easy to find gold in a gold field...."

And to think I believed you hacks could actually tell me how dowsing works.... Roll Eyes

LINK:http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,20200.0.html

Jeeze, Af, you aren't paying attention. It's been repeated over and over again for years that methodologies used for Dowsing is subjective to each individuals thinking and environment. One size does not fit all. Here you are complaining that you have too many methods to choose from.

If you have an interest in learning to Dowse as you seem to claim You have the option to thoroughly test each dowsers methods, learn for yourself, and select what works best for you.

Complaining and ranting about what Dowsers do successfully, and have tried to help you learn, only demonstrates your lack of interest in learning Dowsing, and your continued intentions to be disruptive and antagonistic with asinine comments about others.

Certainly, you have been on this forum long enough to have learned to Dowse from the information and knowledge that has been provided, if indeed you had any interest in learning to Dowse successfully. If you haven't practiced and learned the best method that works for you by now, you might as well give up on yourself as a lost cause. Your inability to learn is NOT the fault, or responsibility of anyone else posting on this forum, so quit placing blame.

Sharing your own personal experience with what you have learned during your own Dowsing practice sessions would be productive, and given in the spirit of others on this forum to be helpful to others who are interested in learning and sharing their own Dowsing experiences.

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND" Dell

And as I've pointed out to you several times, apparently only certain people can dowse, and that's it's not a trait that everyone possesses.

Or, maybe anyone can do it with practice.....

You see, I've read all the posts set forth by dowsers and there's no agreement to anything about dowsing.....

Why does everything have to fit into your idea of dowsing? Example my golf swing works fantastic for me but not for you. Does that mean your swing is right or does it mean mine is the right swing? Would you think that the people who supposedly can't dowse might be sabotaging their efforts by their beliefs or non- beliefs? The whole world isn't on & off black & white.

It's not so much that I have a particular pre-formed idea about what dowsing is, but more that I would like to know how and why dowsing should work. It doesn't make any sense to me, and I've been searching for a reasonable explanation for years. I'm fairly certain that an answer to that question can't be found here, but I keep hoping for that ray of reason to come shining through.

 

[ArkieGold]

"It's not so much that I have a particular pre-formed idea about what dowsing is, but more that I would like to know how and why dowsing should work. It doesn't make any sense to me, and I've been searching for a reasonable explanation for years. I'm fairly certain that an answer to that question can't be found here, but I keep hoping for that ray of reason to come shining through."

You're probably right in that the answer to that question can't be found here. I too searched for answers a few years ago and only became confused and stopped trying. But inside myself I knew something is up with dowsing as I've repeatedly stated the water line issue. Too bad I have this unquenchable urge to also find treasure and honestly have found a few coins and silverware early on in my dowsing experiments but that stopped being successful as my confusion increased. I can't let it go. I'm getting results of some sort in my looking around but am of the fairly certain belief my targets are too deep for a conventional metal detector (so far) and am getting a two box detector in hopes of confirming suspect targets before digging big holes on folks land who have graciously given permission for me to metal detect.

I'm no scientist so won't say dowsing is a science. I'm certainly no mental guru so can't say it's mental. Spiritual Each has his/her own level of faith in that and we're all different so I doubt spirituality has a play in it. I don't see the benefit of those proclaiming to be dowsers to be arguing about methods but I suppose it's like anything else. Put ten fishermen in a room who all can catch fish and you'll get ten different methods and all think their's is best. I can't catch fish on tubes but jig and frog look out bass!

I'm a freakin city worker from Arkansas and the rods do something. Along the topic of signal lines I did some tests today. Art has been very good to furnish me with some coordinates he believes something to be located in my area. So far I have checked all but two of the areas and in each area I get rod reaction and end up on what I suppose to be a target. So I think perhaps my mind is forming a target based on my supposition that Art has given me a target. So I go to an area today along a creek, thinking ok, people used to like to bury things along creeks for some reason. No pre-set notion of a supposed target and my rods are baited with gold nuggets. I'm going along and get rod action, same as in Art's areas. Three different targets in my little walk. One seemed rather stronger than the others and happens to be under where an old railroad trussel crossed the creek, hmmm! If my depth indication is correct, all these targets are over four feet deep. Waiting for the two box to confirm or blow away my targets. What if it's small and deep? Like a gold coin that has sunk from 100 years of freeze and thaw? Two box won't hit it and I'll never know since I'm not digging a four ft+ hole for nothing but I could be missing a valuable coin.

So what if I get the two box and start digging up treasures? Skeptics will always remain since there is no way I or anybody in their right mind is going to risk getting their finds taken away or stolen just to try and prove to someone they don't personally know on a treasure forum. All the right threads are here on this forum for the astute to glean information from and about people and places. If I didn't know any better would venture to say this whole forum is a big information gathering device. I'm not telling if I find something of value so no help in proving anything to anyone. There are a few here that will know. One of my close buds that lurks around here looking at pictures and the man I will bring the fruits of his labor. Oh and the field testers of my homemade gold pans and such I've promised a post card from some exotic place

 

[ArkieGold]

Meant to add that also in my walk today with my baited rods, I walked right over two buried water lines and a sewer line. No reaction from the rods at all.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey Charlie….When I post a photo of something I find I know it will be here at my house for the rest of my life. As long as it is in my procession there is no way I will have to pay taxes on it.
Your right about this forum…We are exchanging information . Some people try to disrupt the flow of information but don’t seem to be up to the task.
You are doing what you have to. If I was going to hide a treasure it would be 4 or five feet deep so why would the old-timers think any different?...Art

 

[ArkieGold]

Old timers were hard and used to hard work. It wasn't a big thing to them to dig 4, 5 or even six ft deep. I think there is a whole other class of buried caches out there that go beyond the traditional post hole type banks that were meant to be gotten into and out of easily. Likely the same areas which hold the post hole caches also hold the nest egg caches and buried loot meant for other things. I'm really surprised there aren't that many detectorists that venture into two box and PI loops. I hope to prove if to nobody else but myself that these caches do exist and there are many more of them about than people realize.

Now I don't know for fact that the government would come and try to confiscate a treasure, just what I have read. So I might feel ok about posting a picture of a coin or two but not a jar full. Still what would that prove if I said it came by way of dowsing? Nothing. Anybody can post a picture of anything gotten by any method and say such and such or actually find it with dowsing but without credible witnesses to the fact, it's just speculation or set-up in the eyes of the majority. Dowsing will likely never be proved or dis-proved on a forum.

Many people are on the fence so to speak. They want to believe dowsing works but there is the doubt. I would say to any on the fence, you won't figure it out reading a forum but you can get some good ideas that might fit your particular situation or method of how you might like to try. The only way for sure is to go out like I am and find out for yourself. Then you will either become on one side of the fence or the other and that will be that but don't think it will happen over night and base your belief on a few half hearted tries. It takes awhile to master the art of pitching a jig and frog thirty feet and have it land without a ripple or noise up under a dock or limb. So with dowsing or anything worth mastering.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Many people are on the fence so to speak. They want to believe dowsing works but there is the doubt. I would say to any on the fence, you won't figure it out reading a forum but you can get some good ideas that might fit your particular situation or method of how you might like to try. The only way for sure is to go out like I am and find out for yourself. Then you will either become on one side of the fence or the other and that will be that but don't think it will happen over night and base your belief on a few half hearted tries. It takes awhile to master the art of pitching a jig and frog thirty feet and have it land without a ripple or noise up under a dock or limb. So with dowsing or anything worth mastering.

Dowsing is just like anything else that is worth learning. There will always be something to learn. If you are not a self starter you probably will not secede. If the day comes that I don’t get excited when I find something I will stop and find another hobby that excites me…Art