Sluicing tips i need some

[KevinInColorado]

Wow, really nice work! You could go into business!

 

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[Goodyguy]

GG,
Well here is the almost finished product. Just waiting on my punch plate. Going to run it primarily as a highbanker which I have on the way as well. For my first attempt I think it turned out okay. First time working with metal and I think I have caught the bug. I am already thinking of some other designs. Thanks again for all of your help. You are a fantastic resource. I hope to post pics of all of the gold I capture this spring and summer. Thanks again!


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Good Job!

Looks like a longer down ramp than I use and it should work just fine
Always was a woodworker myself but aluminum is so easy to work with I have used it for many projects in the last few years and still going.

Right now I'm building a gold and gem fluid bed sluice for a 5" dredge to be installed in a pontoon boat.
(completely original design)



* Very Important I just noticed that you have not installed the diverter baffle. It is a very important part of the design to increase efficiency and reduce gold loss!

Attach a piece of aluminum at a 45 degree angle just after the trap intake port and make sure it extends downward 1/2" below the height of the overflow port. That way any gold entering the trap will be diverted down into the trap and not be allowed to just surf straight across and over the discharge port.




GG~

 

[frost10509]

Good Job!

Looks like a longer down ramp than I use and it should work just fine
Always was a woodworker myself but aluminum is so easy to work with I have used it for many projects in the last few years and still going.

Right now I'm building a gold and gem fluid bed sluice for a 5" dredge to be installed in a pontoon boat.
(completely original design)


* Very Important I just noticed that you have not installed the diverter baffle. It is a very important part of the design to increase efficiency and reduce gold loss!

Attach a piece of aluminum at a 45 degree angle just after the trap intake port and make sure it extends downward 1/2" below the height of the overflow port. That way any gold entering the trap will be diverted down into the trap and not be allowed to just surf straight across and over the discharge port.

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GG~

GG,
Thanks so much. Yeah, I still have to fit the diverter in. I'm waiting til I get punch plate to fit everything together. Just trying to figure out now how to run the fluid bed and highbanker at the same time. I plan on using a hand dredge to suction the river and shoreline. Not quite sure on how to divert so of the H2O flow the the fluid bed. Any thoughts? Thanks again.

Scott

 

[Goodyguy]

GG,
Thanks so much. Yeah, I still have to fit the diverter in. I'm waiting til I get punch plate to fit everything together. Just trying to figure out now how to run the fluid bed and highbanker at the same time. I plan on using a hand dredge to suction the river and shoreline. Not quite sure on how to divert so of the H2O flow the the fluid bed. Any thoughts? Thanks again.

Scott

Have to build a manifold.......




Then connect the hose to the highbanker water feed.


Don't forget to add the separate valve for the hose.

I found this on youtube.....
Starts 30sec into the vid and lasts 6min will show you how to build a manifold out of pvc.

 

[frost10509]

Have to build a manifold.......

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Then connect the hose to the highbanker water feed.
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Don't forget to add the separate valve for the hose.

I found this on youtube.....
Starts 30sec into the vid and lasts 6min will show you how to build a manifold out of pvc.
YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AIOV_q03ZE

Thanks again. You should start charging for advice! Supplemental funding for you gold quest. :-)

 

[frost10509]

GG,

Say in the highbanker configuration, what would you say would be the best angle to run the sluice at?

Thanks,
Scott

 

[Goodyguy]

GG,

Say in the highbanker configuration, what would you say would be the best angle to run the sluice at?

Thanks,
Scott

$5

Just kidding


Not much of an angle, just enough to keep the slick plate from loading up. Usually no more than 1-1/2" to 2" total for a 30" sluice. (I extended my sluice to 40")

I try to get it as level as possible. Of course my highbanker hopper has a built in 1/2" grizzly so it's easier to run a level sluice when the material is somewhat classified.

GG~

 

[frost10509]

$5

Just kidding

Not much of an angle, just enough to keep the slick plate from loading up. Usually no more than 1-1/2" to 2" total for a 30" sluice. (I extended my sluice to 40")

I try to get it as level as possible. Of course my highbanker hopper has a built in 1/2" grizzly so it's easier to run a level sluice when the material is somewhat classified.

GG~

Checks in the mail! Thank ya sir! Have a great weekend.

 

[frost10509]

$5

Just kidding

Not much of an angle, just enough to keep the slick plate from loading up. Usually no more than 1-1/2" to 2" total for a 30" sluice. (I extended my sluice to 40")

I try to get it as level as possible. Of course my highbanker hopper has a built in 1/2" grizzly so it's easier to run a level sluice when the material is somewhat classified.

GG~

So GG here are the fruits of my labor. Added the diverter in the gold trap like you instructed and punch plate too.
I made a manifold for the fluid bed to run on a water hose connection. I have a 7hp 2 inch water pump that I'll be using to dredge with from the creek bank. I still need to work out the water pressure from my pump. I don't want too many psi's blowing out my plumbing. Field test is next to dial in the water flow. Not too sure on the support legs either. Hope this all works.


















This was really a fun project and a true learning experience. Can't wait to put it through its paces. Hopefully I'll have some pics of all the gold this bad boy recovers. Thanks again for everything. You field a ton of questions from folks here and I appreciate you taking the time to help a greenhorn!

Scott

 

[Goodyguy]

So GG here are the fruits of my labor. Added the diverter in the gold trap like you instructed and punch plate too.
I made a manifold for the fluid bed to run on a water hose connection. I have a 7hp 2 inch water pump that I'll be using to dredge with from the creek bank. I still need to work out the water pressure from my pump. I don't want too many psi's blowing out my plumbing. Field test is next to dial in the water flow. Not too sure on the support legs either. Hope this all works.

This was really a fun project and a true learning experience. Can't wait to put it through its paces. Hopefully I'll have some pics of all the gold this bad boy recovers. Thanks again for everything. You field a ton of questions from folks here and I appreciate you taking the time to help a greenhorn!

Scott

That is a great looking build!
Hope you like yours as well as I like mine, I know you'll be impressed with it's ease of operation and clean up as well as it's phenomenal fine gold recovery.

Not sure that hopper will be sufficient with the force of the water from dredging, looks like the material will blow right over it.
But wish you all the best.


*Note I just noticed that your fluid tubes are higher off the bottom of the trap than recommended. Hope that doesn't negatively affect the efficiency.

GG~

 

[Doitlaynstyle]

It has evolved some since the original prototype......http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/sluicing/263238-my-diy-fluid-bed-gold-trap-sluice.html

High banker yes.......

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Does Keene sell just the plastic part of that hopper? I just picked up that Angus and I could convert it into another highbanker sluice. I am thinking that I will need a backpack solution. With a 1 inch type pump, solar electric type maybe. I build my own solar panels. I could easily make a collapsible solar panel and pack a small 12 v motorcycle battery.

 

[Doitlaynstyle]

So GG here are the fruits of my labor. Added the diverter in the gold trap like you instructed and punch plate too.
I made a manifold for the fluid bed to run on a water hose connection. I have a 7hp 2 inch water pump that I'll be using to dredge with from the creek bank. I still need to work out the water pressure from my pump. I don't want too many psi's blowing out my plumbing. Field test is next to dial in the water flow. Not too sure on the support legs either. Hope this all works.



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This was really a fun project and a true learning experience. Can't wait to put it through its paces. Hopefully I'll have some pics of all the gold this bad boy recovers. Thanks again for everything. You field a ton of questions from folks here and I appreciate you taking the time to help a greenhorn!

Scott

Very cool build man! I am looking to do one for the bottom of my sluice to catch anything it might miss. Let us know how it works

 

[Goodyguy]

Does Keene sell just the plastic part of that hopper? I just picked up that Angus and I could convert it into another highbanker sluice. I am thinking that I will need a backpack solution. With a 1 inch type pump, solar electric type maybe. I build my own solar panels. I could easily make a collapsible solar panel and pack a small 12 v motorcycle battery.

Click below...... They want $279.95 plus shipping. You could build one for $50 or less.
Power Sluice Hopper Conversion Component: Keene Engineering Online

 

[frost10509]

Very cool build man! I am looking to do one for the bottom of my sluice to catch anything it might miss. Let us know how it works[/QUOTE]

Thanks so much. I'll try to make a few videos and hopefully take pics of some shiny stuff! This design (bottom part) is GG's and he swears by it so I hope I'm lucky as he is. Will let ya know. Have a great weekend.

 

[Goodyguy]

This design (bottom part) is GG's and he swears by it so I hope I'm lucky as he is. Will let ya know. Have a great weekend.

Don't worry, That design is a proven gold catcher, and once the gold is in the trap it wont come out until you clean it out.

 

[frost10509]

That is a great looking build!
Hope you like yours as well as I like mine, I know you'll be impressed with it's ease of operation and clean up as well as it's phenomenal fine gold recovery.

Not sure that hopper will be sufficient with the force of the water from dredging, looks like the material will blow right over it.
But wish you all the best.

*Note I just noticed that your fluid tubes are higher off the bottom of the trap than recommended. Hope that doesn't negatively affect the efficiency.

GG~[/QUOTE]

Thanks for kind words and helpful tips. I made the fluid tubes a little higher in the trap because I don't know how much I am going to be able to control the force/flow of water from my pump so I didn't want to blow any fine gold up and out of the trap. I plan on constructing another manifold to try and regulate the water flow into the hopper because that was my main concern as well, trying not to blow material over the back.
Gonna run a few tests with water this weekend. My pump is new and still have yet to see what kinda power she has. Thanks again for the help! :-)

 

[frost10509]

Thanks for kind words and helpful tips. I made the fluid tubes a little higher in the trap because I don't know how much I am going to be able to control the force/flow of water from my pump so I didn't want to blow any fine gold up and out of the trap. I plan on constructing another manifold to try and regulate the water flow into the hopper because that was my main concern as well, trying not to blow material over the back.
Gonna run a few tests with water this weekend. My pump is new and still have yet to see what kinda power she has. Thanks again for the help! :-)[/QUOTE]

 

[Goodyguy]

Thanks for kind words and helpful tips. I made the fluid tubes a little higher in the trap because I don't know how much I am going to be able to control the force/flow of water from my pump so I didn't want to blow any fine gold up and out of the trap. I plan on constructing another manifold to try and regulate the water flow into the hopper because that was my main concern as well, trying not to blow material over the back.
Gonna run a few tests with water this weekend. My pump is new and still have yet to see what kinda power she has. Thanks again for the help! :-)

If the trap doesn't get completely fluidized and the lower area gets too compacted, my guess is, it's then more likely to blow the incoming gold out because the jets are higher and closer to the overflow port. (I hope I'm wrong)


Test it by running 20 pieces of lead bird shot seeded into a bucket of gravel and black sand and see if it looses any.



GG~

 

[frost10509]

Test it by running 20 pieces of lead bird shot seeded into a bucket of gravel and black sand and see if it looses any.

Will do. I am going to give it a shot this weekend! I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[KevinInColorado]

Test it by running 20 pieces of lead bird shot seeded into a bucket of gravel and black sand and see if it looses any.

Will do. I am going to give it a shot this weekend! I'll let you know how it goes.

Nice pun!