Spanish coin found on a Florida beach, WHAT IS IT?

[GavinoGambino]

Found this on a beach in Florida, i believe it to be spanish but i dont know what kind of coin it is and what its made of. Can anyone help me with this?! Thanks, Gavin. its about the size of a 50 cent piece.

 

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[ARC]

You said size of "50 cent piece" correct ?

 

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[GavinoGambino]

Woah.....ok well what kind of coin is it and why is it so rare? how do i go about cleaning it through electrolysis?

 

[GavinoGambino]

So it is fake? and its on average an inch and a quarter wide

 

[ARC]

Woah.....ok well what kind of coin is it and why is it so rare? how do i go about cleaning it through electrolysis?

Errr hmmmm.
Must be a "lag" here... in msgs...
Please read above posts.

 

[CRUSADER]

Woah.....ok well what kind of coin is it and why is it so rare? how do i go about cleaning it through electrolysis?

That method will not work on this cheap cast metal. No cleaning will improve it.

 

[ARC]

Yes... that coin would weigh around 26 grams if real.

 

[GavinoGambino]

I just find it hard to believe that a faked coin could be this badly worn and irregularly shaped, there are zero signs of a round edge and none of the edges are the same thickness...

 

[ARC]

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You had my heart pumping and my blood going... heh

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[ARC]

Welp... first sign of "weirdness" is the fact it is in such GOOD condition...
Normally when these have been washed up... they are BLACK... like an oreo cookie.

 

[ARC]

BUT when they have not been submerged OR "packed tight" for long periods... they become "stacks"... and stacks break apart in storms etc... then wash in and begin the corrosion... if in dry sand they look more like this.
BUT... is very rare.

 

[Jason in Enid]

I just find it hard to believe that a faked coin could be this badly worn and irregularly shaped, there are zero signs of a round edge and none of the edges are the same thickness...

Fake coins are made to look like real examples recovered from wrecks, not like they just came from the Philly mint.

 

[GavinoGambino]

Maybe it doesnt show that well in the picture but it is very black, but on top of the black is beach debris (sand/salt/whatever else). The guy at the coin shop said the exact opposite about the condition, he almost didnt want to even check to see what kind of coin it was because he said it was "too far gone". Ive seen pictures on here of faked spanish coins and they look nothing like what i have here, i mean unless this is a very, very old repo...

 

[CRUSADER]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/236476-my-spanish-cob.html
Heres, an example that hasn't been in the sea, its not your type, but your get the idea. If you look hard enough on the net, you will find a match for your repro, I know I've seen it, but there is little point my wasting time, sorry, it is what it is.

 

[GavinoGambino]

I have indeed looked hard and ive found repos that look like this but all of them have either a loop for a necklace or a "copy" on it.

 

[CRUSADER]

A very simple test to put your mind at rest. If its a hammered silver reale, it will react to the aluminium foil test. Spit on some Ali foil & rub the coin between the foil, if it heats up & smells of sulphur (rotten eggs) then I'm wrong.

 

[GavinoGambino]

Where i found this one the beach was at the base of a newly formed "break" in the beach. It was at LEAST 2 feet higher on the one side compared to the current level of the beach. It was very far back on the beach in the middle of where the vegitation starts growing. Then, i found it with my detector at least a foot down so before the storm came that eroded that beach into the cliff of sand, that coin could have been 3 feet below the surface...

 

[CRUSADER]

I have indeed looked hard and ive found repos that look like this but all of them have either a loop for a necklace or a "copy" on it.

Millions do not have copy on it & at this stage, I will change my mind & tell you what you want to hear - its the real deal & worth a small fortune.

 

[GavinoGambino]

well as a matter of fact...(i didnt want to mention this incase ARRC were to have a heart attack) but last night after the guy told me it was too far gone, i did the aluminum foil boiling water and baking soda test and it indeed smelled of sulpher and small amounts of black started forming on the foil at water level

 

[CRUSADER]

well as a matter of fact...(i didnt want to mention this incase ARRC were to have a heart attack) but last night after the guy told me it was too far gone, i did the aluminum foil boiling water and baking soda test and it indeed smelled of sulpher and small amounts of black started forming on the foil at water level

Thats not the test I described, if you do mine & the coin cleans up real good, then it's silver.

 

[19cbb]

I know it was off the keys but looking at the topography of the ocean floor, it is one big flat from the wreck site to Naples which led me to believe that after 500 years this stray coin might have finally washed ashore, but yes, i doubt it is from the Atocha

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