- #1
Thread Owner
what are the best settings disc.&alt. disc. on tejon,mostly civil war relic hunting.only 8 hours with tejon and digging alot of iron,but at the same time i can already hear the difference in some objects
tejon settings?
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l.cutler
Silver Member
I try to dig everything that reads from the lower end of "foil" up, but I assume Civil War relic hunting you would want to find iron?
Boilermaker27
Full Member
Setting for civil war hunting.
I got rid of my Minelab and started using the Tejon. It is really deep and I have found some nice relics. With the Tejon you will find the small iron buttons, gun tools, I even found a small pistol last year, believe me my Minelab and DFX would walk right over those targets, discriminate them out totally.
I bought a DFX last year but found that my Tesoro is extremely deep in waterlogged soil, the wetter the better. Digging real deep minnies in wet soil, much deeper than in dry soil. Found a minnie a few weeks ago and it fell to the bottom of the hole which was about one foot deep. My friend tried his DFX over the hole and nothing. We tweaked the AC sens. and the gain up to 3 still nothing. I took my DFX and tweaked it also and just barely, and I mean barely got a signal. The Tejon was sounding off loud and clear.
Here are the settings I like to use and why:
1.The ground balance knob will turn indefinitely. However, there is a point where you can feel a difference in the turning of the knob. This will then stay the same until a few turns later it again seems to turn freer. Kind of find the midway point where the knob seems to engage a bit harder and start there on the ground balance. Believe me there is a difference and if you turn the knob you will find out for yourself, this is per a Tesoro tech.
2. Turn all the other knobs completely clockwise except the upper left threshhold knob. Make sure the center knob and the middle knob click in the counterclockwise position.
3. Turn the detector on, turn the threshhold knob to attain a threshhold and do the manual ground balance. Balance the detector so that the threshhold tone just starts to rise about two inches before it gets to the ground.
4. Leave the center knob on VCO for easier pinpointing, or you can turn it to about three o'clock, you will not have the VCO but there may be a sharp blip at the end of a target tone that may indicate iron. That setting is up to you and not that critical.
5. Bottom discriminate knob to iron or between iron and the next setting. Closer to iron deeper you will detect. If you are in a somewhat sterile area you may want to put it on iron, or even click it into all metal. If you are in a trashy area you may want to put it between iron and the next setting.
6. upper right second discriminate knob is kind of critical. I like to set it to about pulltab and dig everything that is still there at that setting. You will get buttons, and lots of them. Small buttons may tend to break up a bit.
7. almost forgot this setting. The sensitivity. Run it as high as you can. I run mine almost to the red/orange
area, I think the setting is 10. Don't be afraid to turn this knob as far as you can. You can even turn it into the red zone and detect, it will chatter a bit, you will get used to it, and you will dig deep targets and the best thing is you will get no falsies. Targets, that is.
Usually if I get a strong signal on the first discriminate then I push the trigger forward and if the signal is still there I dig, if it is breaking up a bit then it could be a small button. Generally minnies and round balls hit hard on pulltab.
Again, my deepest targets have been in almost saturated soil. Makes digging a real hassle but you will find things that you missed when the ground was drier.
One last note. On the first discriminator. If you get a target you can then kind of detect around to see how big the target is. A minnie or button will detect on a small area. If the target detects over a much larger area dig the target, even if the second discriminator says no. It may be a horseshoe or junk, but it also may be a gun tool or iron buckle and those are keepers.
Lots of people don't like to say where they detect because they are afraid others may invade. But it hurts nothing to say what State you are in. I am in Missouri and find lots of Federal relics. Which State are you in? Others may chime in from your State with better settings for your area if you tell us that information.
I got rid of my Minelab and started using the Tejon. It is really deep and I have found some nice relics. With the Tejon you will find the small iron buttons, gun tools, I even found a small pistol last year, believe me my Minelab and DFX would walk right over those targets, discriminate them out totally.
I bought a DFX last year but found that my Tesoro is extremely deep in waterlogged soil, the wetter the better. Digging real deep minnies in wet soil, much deeper than in dry soil. Found a minnie a few weeks ago and it fell to the bottom of the hole which was about one foot deep. My friend tried his DFX over the hole and nothing. We tweaked the AC sens. and the gain up to 3 still nothing. I took my DFX and tweaked it also and just barely, and I mean barely got a signal. The Tejon was sounding off loud and clear.
Here are the settings I like to use and why:
1.The ground balance knob will turn indefinitely. However, there is a point where you can feel a difference in the turning of the knob. This will then stay the same until a few turns later it again seems to turn freer. Kind of find the midway point where the knob seems to engage a bit harder and start there on the ground balance. Believe me there is a difference and if you turn the knob you will find out for yourself, this is per a Tesoro tech.
2. Turn all the other knobs completely clockwise except the upper left threshhold knob. Make sure the center knob and the middle knob click in the counterclockwise position.
3. Turn the detector on, turn the threshhold knob to attain a threshhold and do the manual ground balance. Balance the detector so that the threshhold tone just starts to rise about two inches before it gets to the ground.
4. Leave the center knob on VCO for easier pinpointing, or you can turn it to about three o'clock, you will not have the VCO but there may be a sharp blip at the end of a target tone that may indicate iron. That setting is up to you and not that critical.
5. Bottom discriminate knob to iron or between iron and the next setting. Closer to iron deeper you will detect. If you are in a somewhat sterile area you may want to put it on iron, or even click it into all metal. If you are in a trashy area you may want to put it between iron and the next setting.
6. upper right second discriminate knob is kind of critical. I like to set it to about pulltab and dig everything that is still there at that setting. You will get buttons, and lots of them. Small buttons may tend to break up a bit.
7. almost forgot this setting. The sensitivity. Run it as high as you can. I run mine almost to the red/orange
area, I think the setting is 10. Don't be afraid to turn this knob as far as you can. You can even turn it into the red zone and detect, it will chatter a bit, you will get used to it, and you will dig deep targets and the best thing is you will get no falsies. Targets, that is.
Usually if I get a strong signal on the first discriminate then I push the trigger forward and if the signal is still there I dig, if it is breaking up a bit then it could be a small button. Generally minnies and round balls hit hard on pulltab.
Again, my deepest targets have been in almost saturated soil. Makes digging a real hassle but you will find things that you missed when the ground was drier.
One last note. On the first discriminator. If you get a target you can then kind of detect around to see how big the target is. A minnie or button will detect on a small area. If the target detects over a much larger area dig the target, even if the second discriminator says no. It may be a horseshoe or junk, but it also may be a gun tool or iron buckle and those are keepers.
Lots of people don't like to say where they detect because they are afraid others may invade. But it hurts nothing to say what State you are in. I am in Missouri and find lots of Federal relics. Which State are you in? Others may chime in from your State with better settings for your area if you tell us that information.
stoney56
Gold Member
jhettel pretty much said it. I run the threshold at about 1:00 o'clock, 1st disc at just a a hair above iron and 2nd disc at about o in foil, tone at 3 o'clock, and ground balance just a little bit positive (meaning there's a slight increase in tone when lowering the coil to the ground).
Boilermaker27
Full Member
Wow, just realized that I made an awful mistake on how to set up the Tejon.
on number two when I said "turn all the remaining knobs clockwise" that was a mistake. Turn the knobs counter-clockwise and the center knob will click into VCO and the lower right knob will click into "all metal"
Run that machine hot as you can and you will dig deep targets.
on number two when I said "turn all the remaining knobs clockwise" that was a mistake. Turn the knobs counter-clockwise and the center knob will click into VCO and the lower right knob will click into "all metal"
Run that machine hot as you can and you will dig deep targets.
Philvis
Sr. Member
I purchased a new Tejon the beginning of last summer and don't feel I have every successfully ground balanced it. I never turned the ground balance knob all the way around. I just moved it to the positive or negative side. When I slowly lower the coil, I never get a tone increase. Instead the tone dies just about 2 or 3 inches above ground level. Between a bad back and lack of time, I have only really done any searching at a playground and my backyard, which happens to back up to civil war battlefield park. I have found a couple minie balls and some odd clad coins, so the detector works, but I just don't think I am ground balancing it.
If I read the above entries correctly, when ground balancing, I need to twist the ground balance knob completely around a few times or more until I feel a definite resistance than before? Once I reach that point, turning slightly to the left and right from there will get me the negative and positive ground balancing? As I said earlier, I have never gotten the tone to slightly rise when ground balancing. No matter if I turn the knob to the negative on the left or the positive indicator on the right, it the threshold will only go silent when I ground balance it. Being I am in the Richmond area of Virginia and have more red clay earth, I definitely think a proper ground balance can only help me.
If someone could let me know if what I said is the correct interpretation, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
If I read the above entries correctly, when ground balancing, I need to twist the ground balance knob completely around a few times or more until I feel a definite resistance than before? Once I reach that point, turning slightly to the left and right from there will get me the negative and positive ground balancing? As I said earlier, I have never gotten the tone to slightly rise when ground balancing. No matter if I turn the knob to the negative on the left or the positive indicator on the right, it the threshold will only go silent when I ground balance it. Being I am in the Richmond area of Virginia and have more red clay earth, I definitely think a proper ground balance can only help me.
If someone could let me know if what I said is the correct interpretation, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
- #8
Thread Owner
what jhettel is saying once you find the starting point of the resistance you then turn it til it frees up again and then turn it back to the center of the resistance,on mine it is 5 complete turns so i turn it back 2 1/2 turns and then you start the ground balance process.you should not have any problem ground balancing it then.i have a naultilus dmc llb and the tejon by far is easier to balance unless there is some other problem.good luck
l.cutler
Silver Member
No, the Tejon has a 3 3/4 turn ground balance. Turn clockwise four or five turns or until you feel slight resistance. Now you are at the end of the balance, turn counterclockwise 1 3/4 to 2 turns, now you are at the middle. If the tone dies out when you lower the coil, adjust it to the positive, clockwise, if you get a tone increase then turn counterclockwise, until there is no tone change. Tesoros website has a video that does a good job demonstrating.
stoney56
Gold Member
What l.cutler says is true to get the Tejon completely balanced. Practice it till it's 2nd nature. For CW sites and such, you might want to try just a bit of positive GB. Set your sens as high as you can but just a little below erratic chatter, set primary disc. just a bit above iron. It'll still sound on large iron and other items.
Later you can play with secondary disc., which should be set just about o in foil.
Later you can play with secondary disc., which should be set just about o in foil.
Philvis
Sr. Member
I just wanted to thank everyone for their help. I did a quick test last night and actually ground balanced my Tejon for the 1st time! This weekend I will have to hit the yard again, as I am sure I have missed some goodies. I may try to hit the trenches just adjacent to my property as well. Thanks!
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