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ppratt

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Your going to cut it there on the spot? Are you going coin for coin or are you going to have a appraiser there on had. You know different dates and mints are worth more than others right (that was a joke)? Are you up on your values of worth? Are you willing to let the owner sit in a chair and drink tea while you dig? Oh yeah by the way i think those were a couple more post stating that fact that you are WRONG.
 

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Miner Girl, good post. IN the beginning, My partner was looking for this cache and so was I so we combined info and had it all figured out but the location which is not stated in all of the stories about this cache. Any indication of the location was based on historical info that does not exist today, at least to the average researcher. We hired a specialist in locating old properties for 10% of the find's stated value if found. So you see I didn't bring in a partner. So what we have is two TH's and a land owner. My partner is taking a shot at contacting the land owners. Oh yes there are two lots that it could be on next to each other. I had even offered to split it 4 ways so that each land owner would get 1/4 no matter which lot it was found on. If it is in $20 gold coins as I suspect, we are talking about app. $12M.

KK I think I am slightly ahead of anyone else that has looked for it.

ppratt, you like to complicate things! I will just devide it equally in three bags and let the landowner pick one first.
By the way, I have your aggie and moonie. Funny face-flower.jpg

By the way, all money,ever issued, by the federal government carries the full faith and trust of the federal government and can forever be redeamed for face value. Of course a $20 gold coin contains a troy ounce of gold, so it is worth at least spot price of gold which is presently about $1570. There is also the collector value which I don't even want to get into.
 

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Wow! And I thought I had problems! Dividing it up between 4 land owners? You didnt even want to give the one land owner 1/3, and now you want to divided it up into smaller shares? I cant believe this; if the gold is on the first land owners property, you want to give another land owner part of his share?? Im sure he will just jump with joy on that idea!! He already feels its HIS, now you want to give some of HIS money to his neighbor too?

Why not just make this deal, if it can ever be made, go get the gold, and be done with it. If it isnt on his land, then make the same or I hope, better deal with the other land owner. Of course, you want the same 50%, no matter how many people are involved. He is NEVER going to go for a trick like that.

And these ideas floating around, that all you have to do is outlast him are silly too. Unless he is in his 90's, you have a better chance of dying before he does! If he is a "business man", as mentioned many times, he is not going to give you half of HIS money!

Your are right, "all money every issued by the federal government carries the full faith and trust of the federal government...........bla, bla. Are you going to cash it in like that? Why do you come up with these ideas? Are you trying to prove it is legal tender and so have no problem with cashing it in? And melt value? Yes, why not melt down coins that may be worth thousands or tens of thousands, so you can get the melt value, good idea. Also you could just put the valuable coins in your pocket and give the land owner the less valuable coins, and tell him gold coins have no collector value. Im sure, as a business man, he knows nothing about anything, especially how to keep someone from taking HIS money.
 

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Maipenrai, You are not just having broblems with the numbers, you are having trouble with the content. Go back and carefully reread the post. I stated that I would devide it equally in three bags and let the land owner pick one. I think you are just trying to inject problems that don't exist. hand print-2_edited-3.jpg
 

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Yes, I seen that you said you would divide it up into three bags, but it seemed that you said that, just to appease ppratt, and not your actual plan. You mean to say, that you are not going to take the time to go through all the coins, for rarities and key dates, just throw them in a bag and be done with it? That sure doesnt sound much like a treasure hunter to me, throwing away maybe thousands of dollars on each coin. Why even bother to argue the 50%, if thats what your going to do.


Do you really believe while dividing up all this gold between several people, and their families, of course, that the IRS wont be knocking on your door, or their doors?

How are you going to get a person that wont accept 1/3 of the treasure, to now accept 1/4??

You brought this offer to an open forum, so what makes you think the owner isnt here also, maybe he is one of the ones arguing for his 50% share? Is he really as ignorant as you have us believe?
 

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You know, its funny, Minergirl said almost the same things we all have been saying, and then you replied "good post". Its just kinda funny, when a female replies to a post, everyone wants to agree with her, which in this case, Minergirl is right. Maybe she could do the negotiating for you, seems she has the right words.

When you started this thread, you should have also said that you only want opinions that support your 50%, then this wouldnt have been such a long drawn out thread, just you and maybe one other.
 

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You are going coin for coin thats crazy. That's not even fair on both counts what if You get a coin worth thousands and put your cut way above his and that goes for him also are you just wanting to sell for melt? Why am I being complicating things I think as a land owner I would want say of the things I asked in the earlier post if he starts to ask these questions are you going to say you like to complicate things don't you?
 

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Frankn and Maipenrai, Thanks for the "Likes"..

As I said...Good Luck, MinerGirl
 

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Lets just say there was a 1933 double eagle in this stash of goods. Yes I know they are all accounted for, but they have said this in the past. That one coin is worth more than half of the entire estimated gold to be in there, and someone other than you ends up with it (I hope its the landowner). Now if you keep going coin for coin, and everyone gets 4 Mill. in gold right? Wrong! Because someone just ended up with 11 Mill. because of one coin. Simple math will tell you 4/4/11 is not a equal split. WRONG AGAIN FRANKY BOY!!!!
 

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hand print-2_edited-3.jpg ppratt. In the olden days, they called that the luck of the draw. I can go with that. I split it equal. Every one makes what they can from their share. I could care less if the land owner winds up making $11M from his split. looks like that would really bother you! Now we know who the greedy one really is.
 

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This is ridiculous. Seriously. Split it with multiple land owners? If you are not pulling our collective legs (which one would expect) then you aren't thinking clearly at all.

IF you can get 50/50 from a land owner. Dig. Period. He gets 6m, you get 2.7m, your partner gets 2.7m and the old property inspector/detective guy gets .6m. If it is not on land parcel A...
too bad so sad...repeat offer to land owner B. Same math if found.

Sitting down two owners to get 25% each is a nightmare scenario. You want them individually as that is easier by far. You only have to convince one of them. Once one caves...the other will be more curious.

Not agreeing to a 50/50 split...is foolish. You are counting birds in a bush... <--- that expression was made for you btw. Ever wonder why as children we learn certain sayings? "Do onto others as you would have them do onto you?" "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" "A stitch in time saves nine?" <--- ok that one I never understood...but the rest are pretty golden.
 

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You said fair split and 7 mill over the next guy isn't fair. Do you talk to the owner like this? I didn't say I wasn't greedy. Remember I said I don't do deals (I think thats greedy). I'm only here in life for me myself and I, along with my family. Heck yeah it would bother me, when you come knocking on my door and sending me letters telling me how you want to make a fair equal cut. Then you come up with sorry about your luck speech.
 

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Frankn, I dont want you to feel like everyone is ganging up on you, so I will just try to keep my mouth shut, but I am really shaking my head at your last remark!
 

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what if there is one coin left over who gets it? You better go get a Ginsu Knife and cut that coin into three. If your just doing a fair share coin for coin.
 

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This whole thread has become worthless.

Hey Frankn, as I said before, I hope you get your permission to hunt. PM me when you find it, eh? HH!

-Ammo
 

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This whole thread has become worthless.

Hey Frankn, as I said before, I hope you get your permission to hunt. PM me when you find it, eh? HH!

-Ammo
Yep! letter mailed...

Seems only a few posters here actually care.. :thumbsup:

In my opinion: The rest that just want to argue, Can... GO FLY A KITE! :headbang:
 

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I'm not arguing. I own almost 2 acres, and as a landowner these are the questions I would asked the person that is trying to dig up my land and make millions doing so. If the landowner starts to ask questions like this would you just walk away, and say he just wants to argue? he asked for opinions and he got some. The truth hurts, and from what I can tell. he has a few lumps.
 

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