The pinpointers are coming!

Mach1Pilot · Apr 10, 2017

Sorry I didn't post this sooner, as I have been away all weekend at a show and hunt in VA.

But anyway I got an email on Friday saying my initial order of the new pinpointers are due in early this week... Looks like the long wait will be soon coming to an end.

(I will be contacting those on the pre-order list in the next day or so so we can get them out to you right away.

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USERNAME IS VALID · Apr 10, 2017

Do you have more than just pre-order ones?

Mach1Pilot · Apr 10, 2017

At this time I think my pre-preorders will take all of the initial order.. .but I will not know for sure until we contact each person on the list. It very possible someone will drop off the list.

jadocs · Apr 10, 2017

WooHoo!

Mach1Pilot · Apr 11, 2017

I talked to quite a few of you that are on the list and your pinpointers are on the way! :hello:

Indiana Mark · Apr 11, 2017

Fort Bedford Detectors said:
I talked to quite a few of you that are on the list and your pinpointers are on the way!

Did you get enough quantity to fulfill the prepaid pre orders? Just curious as I read on another forum that there was speculation that there may not be enough shipped to US to cover the pre orders. I hope this is not true.

jadocs · Apr 11, 2017

Keith good talking with you and thanks for everything. I actually left a meeting to take your call and had to get back. If your son needs anything down this way just let me know.

Mach1Pilot · Apr 12, 2017

Indiana Mark said:
Did you get enough quantity to fulfill the prepaid pre orders? Just curious as I read on another forum that there was speculation that there may not be enough shipped to US to cover the pre orders. I hope this is not true.

My list is lengthy, but unfortunately not everyone on it will be happy this time around as I wasn't shipped as many as I need. :sadsmiley:

My guess is most dealers are in the same situation, but I'm not sure about that. I have another order in for more of these, but that one is on backorder status.

jadocs · Apr 12, 2017

Keith when you start a list for the HF Elliptical, please put me on it

Mach1Pilot · Apr 12, 2017

Will do!

jadocs · Apr 13, 2017

Just got it. Thanks for the amazing service and super fast shipping!

vferrari · Apr 13, 2017

jadocs said:
Just got it. Thanks for the amazing service and super fast shipping!
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Same here. Thanks, Keith. Time for a test run.

jadocs · Apr 13, 2017

vferrari said:
Same here. Thanks, Keith. Time for a test run.

Have you tried it yet? It's flipping awesome. Switching back and forth is instantaneous, and you can change the tone, sensitivity from the remote.

vferrari · Apr 13, 2017

Yep took it out tonight and ran it until dark (hey, it has an LED). First impressions:

1. Physically, it is sturdy and looks like it will hold up to some abuse. Don't like that the on/off switch is black, same color as the surrounding pinpointer material, makes it hard to see the button in low light and it is not raised sufficiently such that you can find it by feel when wearing gloves. No biggy, just used to glancing at the carrot and seeing that big black button against the orange background.

2. Standalone mode: Just fine and straight forward, intuitive operation. Very similar to the Garrett but not as firm in vibration mode.

3. Pairing mode: Awesome! Paired right up. Like the options screen. Just used the default settings, pitch (vs. pulse) with sensitivity set at 30 and the default pitch frequency.

4. Paired operation: Pretty seamless. Turn on the pinpointer and you are in pinpointer mode. Sensitivity seemed good. Needed to get used to the range of pitch in pitch mode, pitch frequency increases but the intensity (volume) does not increase with proximity to the target, which is fine with me (this is different than how pitch mode or gold field works on the Deus where proximity to the target increases both pitch and volume intensity). Experienced one situation when switching to the pinpointer I experienced some EMI. It was strange, could not figure out the source, and after target recovery could not repeat it again for the rest of the detecting session.

5. Minor quibble/regret - this may just be a matter of me getting used to what I have with the MI-6, but I find myself missing vibration mode which as far as I can tell cannot be activated when the MI-6 is working in paired mode with the Deus. If I am mistaken let me know, but it appears that vibration is only available when the pinpointer is being used in standalone mode. Will probably just get used to it, but wanted to put it out there since I am so used to having it on my Carrot.

Overall, it works great and I think it is the beginning of a beautiful friendship between my Deus and my MI6.

jadocs · Apr 13, 2017

I haven't tried yet but turn your remote on and the press and hold the pinpointer power button for 3-5 seconds to enter advanced mode and see if you can turn on vibration (two presses after advanced mode is activated I believe). Have you tried that?

On a side note I tested the MI-6 with my Garrett Carrot in highest sensitivity and the MI-6 blows it out of the water in a depth test when paired to the Deus (MI-6 is significantly deeper). In stand alone mode (not paired to Deus), the MI-6 is still deeper than the carrot by a little bit.

jtorpy · Apr 17, 2017

Loving my MI-6 Just took it out on my first hunt. Wow so much more intuitive while pinpointing. I love how it switches back and forth with the main coil so easily. Love the adjustability and the pitch mode. Got it really muddy in the wet conditions. My favorite part is that it doesn't false signal if I press slightly harder while probing.

OutdoorAdv · Apr 18, 2017

vferrari said:
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5. Minor quibble/regret - this may just be a matter of me getting used to what I have with the MI-6, but I find myself missing vibration mode which as far as I can tell cannot be activated when the MI-6 is working in paired mode with the Deus. If I am mistaken let me know, but it appears that vibration is only available when the pinpointer is being used in standalone mode. Will probably just get used to it, but wanted to put it out there since I am so used to having it on my Carrot.

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I'm very happy with mine and agree with ALL your points, but wanted to especially comment on "no vibrate mode when paired" I would take the suggestion one step farther and want a "vibrate only" mode. I have always run my pinpointers in vibrate mode only. I actually don't like them making any sounds at all. People might say the whole point of pairing it is to hear it through the headphones. However I still want it to disable the coil and have access to the menu options on the remote, while being in vibrate ONLY mode!

Right now the menu options for the pinpointer are
AUDIO: PITCH/PULSE

They should add a "Vibrate" option in the menu and add a "off" option to Audio
AUDIO: PITCH/PULSE/OFF
VIBRATE: ON/OFF

If we had those options on the pinpointer menu, then we would be able to configure it however we want when its paired to the Deus.

Xraywolf · Apr 19, 2017

Lack of vibration when paired sounds serious, hopefully will be able to enable via software, that alone would be a deal breaker for me.

Hopefully the sensitivity is good and tweakable, wouldn't want a pinpointer to detect a coin sized object more than an inch away, that would defeat its purpose.

jadocs · Apr 19, 2017

Xraywolf said:
Lack of vibration when paired sounds serious, hopefully will be able to enable via software, that alone would be a deal breaker for me.

Hopefully the sensitivity is good and tweakable, wouldn't want a pinpointer to detect a coin sized object more than an inch away, that would defeat its purpose.

I'm sure the vibration could be updated when paired in a future software release. The sensitivity is absolutely adjustable. It has 50 sensitivity levels when paired (press + or - right on your remote to adjust), and 3 in standalone just like a Garrett.