lol see you can make all the jokes you want .. and that's just why i will go to grave knowing every one of you that go looking for the LDM don't have a sweet chance in hell of finding it ... its that well hidden . Waltz was not stupid ...yes i found the mine and i found the stone door but you guys have a good laugh i don't mind in fact i will be laughing at you the same way ... but i know where the mine is and you will never even come with in a mile of ..and you will never know it is 5 ft away .. lol ..lol hahahahaha now that's a great joke .. good luck hunting ... see ya .. so why did no one ever find the tailing pile ...LOL maybe you just don't know as much as you think you do ... ? do the math fools ...lol i am sorry you don't have the IQ to look beyond what your told ...lol hand feed livestock ...