The Track-way Site - Day 4 - SCEAT...

[CRUSADER]

The first hour was nice as the ground was still frozen but it soon turn to soup & warmed up so much I had to take off 2 layers! As sometimes happens the best find came from a previous blank area & we were not expecting much today. This site is mostly 5th-6th C, we had only had 1 middle Saxon pin-head that we thought to be a freak, so when Cru'dad got the sceat we were both very surprised. I remarked that we hadn't even had any Saxon strap-ends (another friend of sceats), & would you believe it, on the same run Cru'dad got one! Cortes fights back.
5 Hour mud workout;

Livery Button
4 Roman Coins
Jetton
13-14th C Buckle which has a beast head on top, I think its a spur buckle? (a first)
Part of a Roman Key Handle
1921 Florin
Bruce Castle token from a famous private school in London (dated 1827-79). Its produced by Rowland Hill who invented the Penny Post & given to kids who did well. Never heard of such a thing until today, read more;
Rowland Hill 1795-1880
Saxon Strapend
Circa 700AD Saxon Sceat - ''This is an interesting contemporary imitation of Series BI.''

 

[Lewy]

Great days finds , all very interesting.
Tesoro bleep and dig

 

[CRUSADER]

What’s to say the difference between a new die variety and a contemporary counterfeit? Especially considering the silver content, weight, and quality? Has Antiquities seen this variety of counterfeit before?

Either way I actually think the cool factor went up being an early counterfeit.

Yes, the corpus has one (1) that is a near match. It's not a new die or variant, that was fairly clear to us because its sloppy (poor copy/workmanship) & the head is not the same quality as all the other many groups of this series. For starters you should only see 1 eye on the proper ones not 2. Here is the close match;

 

[CRUSADER]

Heard phrases like this before too. If a coin specialist don't know he says counterfeit. Happend with celtic gold once. Took me three (!) years to get my coin back because it went from museum to museum for ID and was finally recorded as contemporary counterfeit.

They would not be drawn on the subject & gave me no opinion, which tells me they can't explain it.(Don't know)

 

[Benjamin52]

Wow, the story is getting more interesting. I don't know if this is good news or bad news in your eyes, for me it would be a piece of living history if it were counterfeit, it gives an interesting twist and makes it maybe a bit more unique...

 

[CRUSADER]

Wow, the story is getting more interesting. I don't know if this is good news or bad news in your eyes, for me it would be a piece of living history if it were counterfeit, it gives an interesting twist and makes it maybe a bit more unique...

Yes, it makes it rarer & more interesting to me, as this is only the 2nd one of its 'type' recorded. (although it has a negative affect on it's value to collectors)

 

[Benjamin52]

Yes, it makes it rarer & more interesting to me, as this is only the 2nd one of its 'type' recorded. (although it has a negative affect on it's value to collectors)

Yes, I feel the same. I know it is less valuable numismatically, but hey, I think we all agree we are mostly in it for the history, right?
I guess if it was a 1000+ $ find I would be annoyed but for this piece I personally feel the history is worth more.