The Trail Of Tears

fossis said:
VanGone said:
Another interesting chapter in your book Fossis.You do a great job with your writing and pictures.A very sad story about what happened! My Brother did a family tree on both my Father and Mothers side of our family. On my Mothers side he was not able to get back only a short way.My Mothers side had no available information beyond my Greatgrand Mother. She came from the East and with her was an older women that we can not identify,just that she was Indian. My Great Grandmothers name was Smith and we believe that Indians from there that were removed were given the name Smith We believe she was Pequot Indian.I'm not sure of any spelling on this. Is there anyway a person can find out information on this Fossis.
Van

Thanks Van, In OK they have roll numbers on all the tribe members, maybe you could check with that tribe from the state she came from.

Good luck, Fossis...........
Thanks Fossis I will give that a try. Its always been a mystery where she was from and who the other women was. Any information was lost when my Mother died. The older women was Indian and my Greatgrandmother used all the remedies that an Indian would have done.All we know is that my Grandmother came from Pennsylvania
Van
 

Fossis, thank you so much for sharing this. The Trail of Tears will (should) be always a very prominent part of our history of this country. Thank you for sharing your family's participation/heritage with us. You're special and a very special part of the heritage of this country! And to the others who are sharing their history and heritage - Hoorah!! It is always amazing when people research and find their roots in the soil of the land we live in. I love history and you guys make it a living history with your posts. Thanks! -Noodle
 

Noodle said:
Fossis, thank you so much for sharing this. The Trail of Tears will (should) be always a very prominent part of our history of this country. Thank you for sharing your family's participation/heritage with us. You're special and a very special part of the heritage of this country! And to the others who are sharing their history and heritage - Hoorah!! It is always amazing when people research and find their roots in the soil of the land we live in. I love history and you guys make it a living history with your posts. Thanks! -Noodle

Thanks Noodle for the kind words, glad to share.

Fossis................
 

Common to see signs around Middle Tennessee denoting the "Trail of Tears".

these days with all the illegal immigration we seem to put a lot of stock in our "heritage" but somehow it doesn't seem to include this part of our history.

Nice post Fossis!
 

wesfrye53 said:
Common to see signs around Middle Tennessee denoting the "Trail of Tears".

these days with all the illegal immigration we seem to put a lot of stock in our "heritage" but somehow it doesn't seem to include this part of our history.

Nice post Fossis!

Thanks Wes

Fossis..............
 

Thank you .

John G. Burnett’s Story of the Removal of the Cherokees
Birthday Story of Private John G. Burnett, Captain Abraham McClellan’s Company, 2nd Regiment, 2nd Brigade, Mounted Infantry, Cherokee Indian Removal, 1838-39.
Children:
This is my birthday, December 11, 1890, I am eighty years old today. I was born at Kings Iron Works in Sulllivan County, Tennessee, December the 11th, 1810. I grew into manhood fishing in Beaver Creek and roaming through the forest hunting the deer and the wild boar and the timber wolf. Often spending weeks at a time in the solitary wilderness with no companions but my rifle, hunting knife, and a small hatchet that I carried in my belt in all of my wilderness wanderings.
On these long hunting trips I met and became acquainted with many of the Cherokee Indians, hunting with them by day and sleeping around their camp fires by night. I learned to speak their language, and they taught me the arts of trailing and building traps and snares. On one of my long hunts in the fall of 1829, I found a young Cherokee who had been shot by a roving band of hunters and who had eluded his pursuers and concealed himself under a shelving rock. Weak from loss of blood, the poor creature was unable to walk and almost famished for water. I carried him to a spring, bathed and bandaged the bullet wound, and built a shelter out of bark peeled from a dead chestnut tree. I nursed and protected him feeding him on chestnuts and toasted deer meat. When he was able to travel I accompanied him to the home of his people and remained so long that I was given up for lost. By this time I had become an expert rifleman and fairly good archer and a good trapper and spent most of my time in the forest in quest of game.

The removal of Cherokee Indians from their life long homes in the year of 1838 found me a young man in the prime of life and a Private soldier in the American Army. Being acquainted with many of the Indians and able to fluently speak their language, I was sent as interpreter into the Smoky Mountain Country in May, 1838, and witnessed the execution of the most brutal order in the History of American Warfare. I saw the helpless Cherokees arrested and dragged from their homes, and driven at the bayonet point into the stockades. And in the chill of a drizzling rain on an October morning I saw them loaded like cattle or sheep into six hundred and forty-five wagons and started toward the west.

One can never forget the sadness and solemnity of that morning. Chief John Ross led in prayer and when the bugle sounded and the wagons started rolling many of the children rose to their feet and waved their little hands good-by to their mountain homes, knowing they were leaving them forever. Many of these helpless people did not have blankets and many of them had been driven from home barefooted.

On the morning of November the 17th we encountered a terrific sleet and snow storm with freezing temperatures and from that day until we reached the end of the fateful journey on March the 26th, 1839, the sufferings of the Cherokees were awful. The trail of the exiles was a trail of death. They had to sleep in the wagons and on the ground without fire. And I have known as many as twenty-two of them to die in one night of pneumonia due to ill treatment, cold, and exposure. Among this number was the beautiful Christian wife of Chief John Ross. This noble hearted woman died a martyr to childhood, giving her only blanket for the protection of a sick child. She rode thinly clad through a blinding sleet and snow storm, developed pneumonia and died in the still hours of a bleak winter night, with her head resting on Lieutenant Greggs saddle blanket.

I made the long journey to the west with the Cherokees and did all that a Private soldier could do to alleviate their sufferings. When on guard duty at night I have many times walked my beat in my blouse in order that some sick child might have the warmth of my overcoat. I was on guard duty the night Mrs. Ross died. When relieved at midnight I did not retire, but remained around the wagon out of sympathy for Chief Ross, and at daylight was detailed by Captain McClellan to assist in the burial like the other unfortunates who died on the way. Her unconfined body was buried in a shallow grave by the roadside far from her native home, and the sorrowing Cavalcade moved on.

Being a young man, I mingled freely with the young women and girls. I have spent many pleasant hours with them when I was supposed to be under my blanket, and they have many times sung their mountain songs for me, this being all that they could do to repay my kindness. And with all my association with Indian girls from October 1829 to March 26th 1839, I did not meet one who was a moral prostitute. They are kind and tender hearted and many of them are beautiful.

The only trouble that I had with anybody on the entire journey to the west was a brutal teamster by the name of Ben McDonal, who was using his whip on an old feeble Cherokee to hasten him into the wagon. The sight of that old and nearly blind creature quivering under the lashes of a bull whip was too much for me. I attempted to stop McDonal and it ended in a personal encounter. He lashed me across the face, the wire tip on his whip cutting a bad gash in my cheek. The little hatchet that I had carried in my hunting days was in my belt and McDonal was carried unconscious from the scene.

I was placed under guard but Ensign Henry Bullock and Private Elkanah Millard had both witnessed the encounter. They gave Captain McClellan the facts and I was never brought to trial. Years later I met 2nd Lieutenant Riley and Ensign Bullock at Bristol at John Roberson’s show, and Bullock jokingly reminded me that there was a case still pending against me before a court martial and wanted to know how much longer I was going to have the trial put off?

McDonal finally recovered, and in the year 1851, was running a boat out of Memphis, Tennessee.

The long painful journey to the west ended March 26th, 1839, with four-thousand silent graves reaching from the foothills of the Smoky Mountains to what is known as Indian territory in the West. And covetousness on the part of the white race was the cause of all that the Cherokees had to suffer. Ever since Ferdinand DeSoto made his journey through the Indian country in the year 1540, there had been a tradition of a rich gold mine somewhere in the Smoky Mountain Country, and I think the tradition was true. At a festival at Echota on Christmas night 1829, I danced and played with Indian girls who were wearing ornaments around their neck that looked like gold.

In the year 1828, a little Indian boy living on Ward creek had sold a gold nugget to a white trader, and that nugget sealed the doom of the Cherokees. In a short time the country was overrun with armed brigands claiming to be government agents, who paid no attention to the rights of the Indians who were the legal possessors of the country. Crimes were committed that were a disgrace to civilization. Men were shot in cold blood, lands were confiscated. Homes were burned and the inhabitants driven out by the gold-hungry brigands.

Chief Junaluska was personally acquainted with President Andrew Jackson. Junaluska had taken 500 of the flower of his Cherokee scouts and helped Jackson to win the battle of the Horse Shoe, leaving 33 of them dead on the field. And in that battle Junaluska had drove his tomahawk through the skull of a Creek warrior, when the Creek had Jackson at his mercy.

Chief John Ross sent Junaluska as an envoy to plead with President Jackson for protection for his people, but Jackson’s manner was cold and indifferent toward the rugged son of the forest who had saved his life. He met Junaluska, heard his plea but curtly said, "Sir, your audience is ended. There is nothing I can do for you." The doom of the Cherokee was sealed. Washington, D.C., had decreed that they must be driven West and their lands given to the white man, and in May 1838, an army of 4000 regulars, and 3000 volunteer soldiers under command of General Winfield Scott, marched into the Indian country and wrote the blackest chapter on the pages of American history.

Men working in the fields were arrested and driven to the stockades. Women were dragged from their homes by soldiers whose language they could not understand. Children were often separated from their parents and driven into the stockades with the sky for a blanket and the earth for a pillow. And often the old and infirm were prodded with bayonets to hasten them to the stockades.

In one home death had come during the night. A little sad-faced child had died and was lying on a bear skin couch and some women were preparing the little body for burial. All were arrested and driven out leaving the child in the cabin. I don’t know who buried the body.

In another home was a frail mother, apparently a widow and three small children, one just a baby. When told that she must go, the mother gathered the children at her feet, prayed a humble prayer in her native tongue, patted the old family dog on the head, told the faithful creature good-by, with a baby strapped on her back and leading a child with each hand started on her exile. But the task was too great for that frail mother. A stroke of heart failure relieved her sufferings. She sunk and died with her baby on her back, and her other two children clinging to her hands.

Chief Junaluska who had saved President Jackson’s life at the battle of Horse Shoe witnessed this scene, the tears gushing down his cheeks and lifting his cap he turned his face toward the heavens and said, "Oh my God, if I had known at the battle of the Horse Shoe what I know now, American history would have been differently written."

At this time, 1890, we are too near the removal of the Cherokees for our young people to fully understand the enormity of the crime that was committed against a helpless race. Truth is, the facts are being concealed from the young people of today. School children of today do not know that we are living on lands that were taken from a helpless race at the bayonet point to satisfy the white man’s greed.

Future generations will read and condemn the act and I do hope posterity will remember that private soldiers like myself, and like the four Cherokees who were forced by General Scott to shoot an Indian Chief and his children, had to execute the orders of our superiors. We had no choice in the matter.

Twenty-five years after the removal it was my privilege to meet a large company of the Cherokees in uniform of the Confederate Army under command of Colonel Thomas. They were encamped at Zollicoffer and I went to see them. Most of them were just boys at the time of the removal but they instantly recognized me as "the soldier that was good to us". Being able to talk to them in their native language I had an enjoyable day with them. From them I learned that Chief John Ross was still ruler in the nation in 1863. And I wonder if he is still living? He was a noble-hearted fellow and suffered a lot for his race.

At one time, he was arrested and thrown into a dirty jail in an effort to break his spirit, but he remained true to his people and led them in prayer when they started on their exile. And his Christian wife sacrificed her life for a little girl who had pneumonia. The Anglo-Saxon race would build a towering monument to perpetuate her noble act in giving her only blanket for comfort of a sick child. Incidentally the child recovered, but Mrs. Ross is sleeping in a unmarked grave far from her native Smoky Mountain home.

When Scott invaded the Indian country some of the Cherokees fled to caves and dens in the mountains and were never captured and they are there today. I have long intended going there and trying to find them but I have put off going from year to year and now I am too feeble to ride that far. The fleeing years have come and gone and old age has overtaken me. I can truthfully say that neither my rifle nor my knife were stained with Cherokee blood.

I can truthfully say that I did my best for them when they certainly did need a friend. Twenty-five years after the removal I still lived in their memory as "the soldier that was good to us".

However, murder is murder whether committed by the villain skulking in the dark or by uniformed men stepping to the strains of martial music.

Murder is murder, and somebody must answer. Somebody must explain the streams of blood that flowed in the Indian country in the summer of 1838. Somebody must explain the 4000 silent graves that mark the trail of the Cherokees to their exile. I wish I could forget it all, but the picture of 645 wagons lumbering over the frozen ground with their cargo of suffering humanity still lingers in my memory.

Let the historian of a future day tell the sad story with its sighs, its tears and dying groans. Let the great Judge of all the earth weigh our actions and reward us according to our work.

Children - Thus ends my promised birthday story. This December the 11th 1890.
 

Wow! What a great testament to a very bleak spot in our history.

Great Post Gypsy! (And obviously some very rewarding research!)
 

Thanks Gypsy, the story needs to be remembered.

Fossis................
 

aa battery said:
Great pics sad story. Fossis they did the same thing here in California to the American Natives.
Dont worry there getting a lot back with thier casinos
....lol
 

You know speaking of the casinos
I believe they are hording billions of dollars away made from indian casinos
and some day when our presidents spend our tax dollars past the point of no return.
the Indians will step up to the plate and once again have control of thier land back


COULD HAPPEN.
 

imafishingnutt said:
You know speaking of the casinos
I believe they are hording billions of dollars away made from indian casinos
and some day when our presidents spend our tax dollars past the point of no return.
the Indians will step up to the plate and once again have control of thier land back


COULD HAPPEN.

So true, about the casino's, they seem to have lots of money, (but they are generous in this area helping lots of Fire dept's, schools, etc).

Fossis.............
 

I just hope Guido and Alfonse aren't taking a big cut from them.

Hey Fossis...wasn't Gypsy's post interesting? ;D
 

wesfrye53 said:
I just hope Guido and Alfonse aren't taking a big cut from them.

Hey Fossis...wasn't Gypsy's post interesting? ;D

I need to 'rephrase' my last comment, (The Choctaw Nation) is good to give money to organizations, not the Casino's themselves.
Yes Wes, that was an intresting addition.

Fossis..............
 

Here in the Black Hills of South Dakota - the indians have never spent one cent of what the United States "paid" them for the land.

Why? The indian's position is: We do not accept the money, we do not accept the sale, we will not give up our homeland and holy areas.

B
 

mrs.oroblanco said:
Here in the Black Hills of South Dakota - the indians have never spent one cent of what the United States "paid" them for the land.

Why? The indian's position is: We do not accept the money, we do not accept the sale, we will not give up our homeland and holy areas.

B

I have heard that before.
Many of the 'cheifs' who signed the papers to give up their land, were later murdered by their tribesmen, & opposing 'factions' had trouble for years after.

Fossis................
 

There are so many opinions and story's that we listen to, we take the blame and credit for the past.
If we look at both sides with open eyes it changes our look on life.
The self appointed Power mad Generals and the bandit renegade Indians, became hero's,some got more power. The renegades even robed their own people and other Nations . The three generals I will mention killed their own men for the slightest infraction of their rules, because two of them were paying salaries.
I will start in Va. and the rich Bacon a poet and writer. Plus, the Iroquois Renegades.
The renegades came down from the North in the early 1700's and just about killed all the Powhatan Indians west of Henrico, County, took every thing they had, then they looted and killed most of the white eyes, only Jamestown left.
Bacon, after power or glory, took an army he formed and paid, forced his way into the Gov. Mansion and demanded he sign an order that give him the authority to take all the Indian land from east Va. to the Appalachian Mtns. This was not Iroquois land, it was Cherokee and Powhatan farms. He finished off the Powhatan and killed most of the Cherokee in that area, men, women and children.
The Gov had second thought and was going to try to stop Bacon, but it was too late and before he got to him Bacon died. The Gov was appointed by the King of England what went on there was never told, nor corrected.
Now we go to the land of the great Jackson and the renegade Upper Creeks (not all of them) I will make this short, it is a long story, read it when you get time.
The renegade Creeks robbed and pillaged Indian as well as white eyes land. One thief was selling the whites land that he didn't own and the crooked judges would stand behind him. This crook ran a bar on the Ga/Al line, a stage route.
Jackson attacked the creeks and was defeated by the renegades in Clay County . He took his troops back to Talladega and formed a big army. The Choctaw,Chickasaw and Cherokee formed a support unit to help Jackson destroy Horseshoe bend, That was 1812. Jacksons Army formed on the well fortified West, his Indian allies formed on the unprotected East bank of the Tallapoosa River. The Indians were to hold the Red Sticks and stop them if they tried to cross the river. They Jumped the gun and charged across the river so we know the story, Jackson got the credit, became a hero.
Jackson wanted restitution for his losses, so he took seven million acres(I think). You may think that was fair, but most of this land belonged to the Chickasaw, Cherokee, Choctaw and I did not mention the Hillabee that didn't have any warriors.
The Hillabee Chief went to see Jackson and tell him he did not want any war, he had no warriors, and he wanted live and trade with white friends in peace. Jackson told him it was too late that he had already dispatched Gen White and Troop down there to take action. Gen White arrived at night and shot or bayoneted every man woman and child in the village, about two hundred and fifty. Then they burned the village to the ground, mostly log cabins.

I don't feel like talking on the subject of Custer. Another Hitler type Hero.
It is very hard for me to think on the subject of the Whites in Va, the Powhatan's, the Hillabees and the Chickasaw at Chandler Springs (My Ancestors), The Choctaws that were attacked by the Red Sticks.
It is hard for me to see beyond the trail of tears.
 

Greetings,
I would like to suggest that anyone interested to research the full history of this, and not focus in on the exodus of the Cherokees as one single incident without anything leading in to it, or following it. History is so frequently distorted today that we often hear only one side of every issue, and never examine the other.
He who fails to learn from history, is condemned to repeat it. For instance, look up the incident of the massacre at Fort Mims, or the various Indian tribes aligning with the British against the Americans during the Revolutionary war, which conflict included numerous atrocities by both sides. How many today grieve for the "trail of tears" of the Shawnees, driven out of their homelands NOT by the evil "white eyes" but by the Cherokees, Creeks and Chickasaws, or of the Tuscaroras, driven to seek refuge far to the north among the Iroquois when the un-ceasing warfare they suffered at the hands of the Cherokees could not reach a peaceful end. For that matter, who today mourns the Uchees, a tribe exterminated by the Cherokees? Let us grieve the horrible errors of the past, but let us examine the past with both eyes open!

The battle of Horseshoe Bend has been mentioned:
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and it was implied that the battle was fought and won by Jackson's Indian allies, and they did in fact play a critical part - but remember that Indian allies made up only a third of Jackson's force of 3000, the rest being Tennessee militia and the 39th US Regiment; in fact at least 78 American soldiers are buried at the battlefield.http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/records/batl1812.htm

Custer is a "Hitler-type Hero"? I see no parallels here - for Custer was never a dictator of any nation, built no extermination camps, etc but was an American soldier, who died fighting for his country. That still counts for something in my little book. Hollywood of recent years has made it popular to discredit the man and make something else out of him, something far distant from reality. If he was really and truly on some kind of "par" with herr Hitler, why should Cheyenne women have interceded to protect his dead body from being desecrated by the victorious warriors after the fighting had ceased? Custer went to Washington to actually fight FOR the Indians in Congressional hearings, in which he even named the President's own brother for involvement in the vast graft schemes designed to cheat the Indians on the reservations. For this he was in fact removed from command by Grant, and had to beg president Grant to allow him to accompany his regiment as it was being ordered out to campaign against the Sioux and Cheyennes.

Then there is the US Civil War, in which General Custer played no small or un-important part! He is famous today for his great defeat, yet hardly anyone recalls his exploits at Hanover (PA) where he fought CS Gen. Stuart's cavalry to a standstill and thus directly affected the outcome of the battle of Gettysburg, considered by most to be "the" turning point of the war; indeed who recalls his victory at Waynesboro (VA) where he captured over 1500 Confederate soldiers with a loss to his own command of NINE men killed or wounded.
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/civilwar/waynesboro/default.aspx
map
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/civilwar/waynesboro/images/WaynesboroMap.jpg
Ever heard of Appomattox Court House in Virginia? Who do you suspect had out-maneuvered General Lee and beat him to Appomattox, cutting off the retreat of the whole of the Army of Northern Virginia, but that "villain" Custer. Who rode out to meet General Lee when he approached the Union lines to seek terms of surrender, but again Custer - another man might have simply opened fire on them and resulted in extending the blood-letting for months or years.

A good treasure hunter ought to examine all the evidence before arriving at conclusions, and this should carry over into our interest in history, politics, and everything for that matter. Hearing only one side of events is a sure-fire way to get a biased and/or distorted view of things. Don't get too much of your history from the dreck pumped out of Hollywood, or from TV for that matter.

Good luck and good hunting, I hope you all find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco
 

I have been told stories by my ancestors, up until 11 years ago. I do not have all the story on Custer. He was made a hero by the press after little Big Horn.
Why did he want to kill the Indians and beg for his job back to do so. Why did the Indians hate him enough to form a big army to kill him.
I stay away from the press, movies and TV. You are so right, that's where hero's are made and good people are turned into villians. It happens in some books too. So if I lie, forgive me, I do read books or did. Every one has a different view of what they read, hear or see and if they write they make their own record.
In my impression, you have a wonderful spirit, and I love to read what you write.
I was very late in getting what little education I had, no electricity until I was 16,
we never had a vehicle except our feet or horse. Sometimes I want to go back to those days, then when I go to the automatic coffee maker and get a cup I change my mind. We got electricity when WWII was going on.
Then I joined the Marines, they kicked me out because I was too young. I had an uncle that told on me when he found out. He retired from the marines and I kept telling stories and retired from the Air Force, same year and month. We both had three wars and were in Vietnam our last one at the same time. That was our trail of tears.
 

Just ask the Indians what unchecked immigration will lead to, and I will dig a whole and hide in it now :D
 

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