Think I just find tiny little sliver of tree coin

[toasted]

So what do you all think. Looks like some sort of tree coin to me. Wow.
UPDATE: Also found the Louis XIV 4 sol within minutes of posting the pine tree. Double wow
Two 17th century silvers in one hunt and neither are Spanish

 

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[Ahab8]

Looks like it could be a noe 4 large planchet shilling from looking at the 5 and the 2, I am sure others can id it better than me.Great find

I’ve been going back and forth between the 4 and the 10 or some sub variety of the 10. I have landed on the Pine Tree Shilling NOE 10 for these reasons. I’m certainly open to arguments as these are tough to Id. Let’s start with the 6 in 1652. First off it doesn’t come close to closing the loop. This alone narrows us down greatly. The reason I believe that 6 matches the NOE 10 better than the 4 is because it stays a fairly consistent width as it goes up to the top. On the 4 it narrows up a bit and gets more pointy. Now for the 5. The 5 on Toasted’s is a very identifiable shape on these Mass silvers. This really gets us down to the NOE 4 vs the NOE 10. My issue with the 5 on NOE 4 is that it turns too much at the bottom and almost flattens out where the 5 on NOE 10 is very incomplete and doesn’t make the turn or flatten out at all. The one last point I’ll make is that I like the second branch down on the left to match the NOE 10. This is a tough one as Toasteds coin is a bit washed out on the back....but that second branch down is much fuller than the rest which is very similar to the branch configuration on the NOE 10. So this is how I landed on the 10 or some sub variety of the 10. Please feel free to tell me I’m wrong as I may very well be and I want to make sure our boy Toasted gets an accurate identification. Here is a pic of the
NOE 10

NOE 4

 

[Ahab8]

Btw with less than 500 of this variety known and being such an incredible piece of our history this should be on the BANNER. If we’re going to send every gold coin with huge mintages up top we are doing these incredible early and important pieces of history a big dishonor by not voting for them. Mid 17th Century silver coin minted in what would become America. Minted illegally I might add. And now Toasted has a piece of one. Can’t get any cooler than that my friends.

 

[A2coins]

great find grest display piece

 

[Rhode Hog]

The 5 does look the same on the noe 10,but my book shows a pellet between the hooked X and the 5 ,pellet could be worn off.Using Salmon's Silver coins of Massachusetts has very large photos, this book is a must have for all tree coin lovers

 

[Mr. Digger]

Amazing. I hope it's the real deal! Unfortunately there is no story to go along with the pics of the find, but if there were I would be voting BANNER!

 

[Hawks88]

Fantastic save. Congrats

 

[Ahab8]

The 5 does look the same on the noe 10,but my book shows a pellet between the hooked X and the 5 ,pellet could be worn off.Using Salmon's Silver coins of Massachusetts has very large photos, this book is a must have for all tree coin lovers

I actually believe it’s there. It’s just blacked out but I believe you can just barely see it

 

[Rhode Hog]

I see it now ,looks like a noe 10 banner find

 

[Ahab8]

I see it now ,looks like a noe 10 banner find

Couldn’t agree more. Special special find as you well know.

 

[Trezurehunter]

I say yes. It even looks like you have the part of the coin with the date on it, in the pic on the right. Great find.

 

[DeepseekerADS]

With two members here who have found one of these coins, I'm convinced it deserves to be up top! BANNER!

Congratulations Toasted! Awesome!!!

 

[BigWaveDave]

The best part is how a piece of silver smaller than our pinky nails gets us all jacked up.....
Agreed, needs to be up top.
Nomination submitted.

 

[toasted]

Thanks for all the work on getting a variety nailed down and on the banner nods. I have posted better pics in another thread I created because I also found an early French silver too but with more traffic in this thread. Here you go

 

[toasted]

The best part is how a piece of silver smaller than our pinky nails gets us all jacked up.....
Agreed, needs to be up top.
Nomination submitted.

Thanks, It is tiny but to get most of the date and tree on what is essentially 1/8 of a coin is pretty remarkable

 

[DeepseekerADS]

The best part is how a piece of silver smaller than our pinky nails gets us all jacked up.....
Agreed, needs to be up top. Nomination submitted.

Hey Dave, you got that right. I'd pee my pants finding something like that and realizing what it was. Considering my very shortened intestines, I'd probably soil myself too

Many of us still dream of such a find.

This find IS A BANNER FIND, PERIOD!

 

[Iron Patch]

The 5 does look the same on the noe 10,but my book shows a pellet between the hooked X and the 5 ,pellet could be worn off.Using Salmon's Silver coins of Massachusetts has very large photos, this book is a must have for all tree coin lovers

What does it say about reworked dies? Breen says it happened multiple times.... so you guys may be comparing and debating things that are actually from the same die and irrelevant. I say "may" because I have very little info. and am not clear of what varieties are in question, or how they were altered.



All that said, super find, and how lucky are you Toasted, you actually get the date portion. If I had shore sites like that here I would literally detect every day of the Summer.

 

[Terry Soloman]

Wow!

 

[pandes]

great find, congrats

 

[gwdigger]

The crazy thing is, it would not surprise me in the least if you found another 1 or more cut MASS silvers at your site (or even whole). The hard part is finding the sites that could produce them. You already did that.