Thomas "Jr." Beale

Rebel - KGC · Dec 5, 2014

THIS is interesting; "down in New Orleans"... COURT CASE! "Google" Beale & others v Walden. THEN... New Orleans Architecture: Jefferson City, page 25. :coffee2:

Coffee...? :hello2:

Rebel - KGC · Dec 5, 2014

Read ALL about IT! Thomas Beale, Sr., Thomas Beale, Jr., Beale Plantation in Louisiana!

Rebel - KGC · Dec 7, 2014

MORE about Thomas Beale, Sr. in New Orleans coming... from COURT DOCUMENTS! Had a "drinking place" in the French Quarter! Knew doctors, lawyers, pirates, "riff-raffs"... who became part of BEALE'S RIFLES "sharp-shooters" during the Battle of New Orleans... Gen. Andy Jackson (Bro) was THANKFUL!

Rebel - KGC · Dec 7, 2014

FIRST! Thomas Beale. Sr.... BIRTH: 1773 in Shenandoah Valley, Va.; DEATH: Sept., 1820... New Orleans, La. & buried in Presbyterian Cemetery; thought it would have been St. Louis Cemetery, near the French Quarter... dunno.

Rebel - KGC · Dec 7, 2014

SECOND: Thomas Beale's (Sr.) Company of Orleans Riflemen; Roster...? "Google" Orleans Riflemen at the Battle of New Orleans, 1814-1815; ROSTER of Captain Thomas Beale's (Sr.) Company.

Rebel - KGC · Dec 8, 2014

NOW! We will go back to the "beginning" in Fincastle, Va., BEFORE Thomas Beale, Sr. skedaddled down to New Orleans... DUEL with James B. Risque, Attorney.

Rebel - KGC · Dec 8, 2014

SO! R & I from MANY sources agree with what Richard/Brad wrote in ONE LETTER, ONE ENCLOSURE; SUBJECT: THE BEALE TREASURE... "Somewhere between the Fall of 1806, and May, 1807... a dispute arose between Thomas (Beale, Sr.) and James (Beverly Risque - Attorney) concerning a 16 year old girl" named Judy/Julia HANCOCK (in Fincastle, Va.). Judy/Julia's father was Col. George HANCOCK, and BOTH were descendants of John HANCOCK, signer of ORIGINAL DOI. it was a FAMILY HONOR "Issue"; Thomas Beale, Sr. shot James Beverly Risque (who survived his wound). Thomas Beale, Sr.
fled to New Orleans, La. and James Beverly Risque, later moved to Lynchburg, Va. with his 3 kids (after his wife, Elizabeth Kennerly died). JBR's kids were Adeline, Ferdinand, & Harriet; Adeline later married Giles Ward, father of JAMES BEVERLY WARD, and was "willed" her father's HUNTING HILLS plantation/farm upon HIS (JBR) death. JAMES BEVERLY WARD (grand-son of JBR) is buried there.

MORE about Thomas Beale, Sr. from Richard/Brad... "One writer, who knew Thomas... described him as a braggart, and an excellent marksman".

Harriet, daughter of JBR... married the father of Maj. Ferdinand C. Hutter (CSA); COUSIN of JAMES BEVERLY WARD.

Rebel - KGC · Dec 8, 2014

NOW! On to Thomas Beale, Sr. in New Orleans... coming SOON! :hello2:

Old Silver · Dec 8, 2014

Rebel - KGC · Dec 8, 2014

Old Silver said:
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Any more info...? Thomas Beale, Sr. died in 1820... so it IS possible.

Old Silver · Dec 8, 2014

Rebel - KGC said:
Any more info...? Thomas Beale, Sr. died in 1820... so it IS possible.

No, just that clip.

bigscoop · Dec 8, 2014

Rebel - KGC said:
SO! R & I from MANY sources agree with what Richard wrote in ONE LETTER, ONE ENCLOSURE; SUBJECT: THE BEALE TREASURE... "Somewhere between the Fall of 1806, and May, 1807... a dispute arose between Thomas (Beale, Sr.) and James (Beverly Risque - Attorney) concerning a 16 year old girl" named Judy/Julia HANCOCK (in Fincastle, Va.). Judy/Julia's father was Col. George HANCOCK, and BOTH were descendants of John HANCOCK, signer of ORIGINAL DOI. it was a FAMILY HONOR "Issue"; Thomas Beale, Sr. shot James Beverly Risque (who survived his wound). Thomas Beale, Sr.
fled to New Orleans, La. and James Beverly Risque, later moved to Lynchburg, Va. with his 3 kids (after his wife, Elizabeth Kennerly died). JBR's kids were Adeline, Ferdinand, & Harriet; Adeline later married Giles Ward, father of JAMES BEVERLY WARD, and was "willed" her father's HUNTING HILLS plantation/farm upon HIS (JBR) death. JAMES BEVERLY WARD (grand-son of JBR) is buried there.

A "family honor issue". Which is what I have always maintained, and not actually over the girl, per say.

bigscoop · Dec 8, 2014

Old Silver said:
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Grimes is an important name as this was one of Laffitte's attorneys and known associates. Now if you can connect Beale Sr. to the Salt Lick Beale....... :thumbsup:

ECS · Dec 8, 2014

bigscoop said:
Grimes is an important name as this was one of Laffitte's attorneys and known associates. Now if you can connect Beale Sr. to the Salt Lick Beale.......

Always just one more "connexion". :BangHead:

Reminds me of those Nick Cage National Treasure movies! :laughing7:

Old Silver · Dec 8, 2014

bigscoop said:
Grimes is an important name as this was one of Laffitte's attorneys and known associates. Now if you can connect Beale Sr. to the Salt Lick Beale.......

Yeah, I thought of that.

Rebel - KGC · Dec 9, 2014

bigscoop said:
Grimes is an important name as this was one of Laffitte's attorneys and known associates. Now if you can connect Beale Sr. to the Salt Lick Beale.......

NO CAN DO... NOT interested; later, will "do" Thomas, "Jr." Beale (TJB)... who died a few years after his father... in New Orleans (1823). Did they lose in duels...?