tongue buckle question solved

[shattercane]

Found this item while detecting pre 1900 house site. Looks like a half of a tongue and wreath to me. It is silver colored and had little corrosion even after being in the ground so long. A magnet doesn't stick and there is no writing on the back.
Can anyone out there offer any information on it. The man who homesteaded this place was in the Civil War and nobody else who lived there served in any military. Could it be that old? This site was in Kansas.

 

[nova treasure]

Re: tongue buckle question

this small and delicately fashioned Spanish naval buckle form is believed to have been used on a belt from which was suspended a dirk or dagger for formal, ceremonial, and off-duty use by Spanish naval and marine officers. Only the tongue components of this tongue-and-wreath interlocking buckle typology have thus far been reported. At least some of these cuprous buckles were originally plated with a faux silver white metal alloy. Examples have been recovered at Spanish occupation sites at Gálveztown, Louisiana and Pensacola, Florida. The anchor device embellishing the tongue is very similar to that which adorns the anchor badge from the wrecksite of El Cazador. The dates of manufacture and use of this and other examples of the type are tentatively assigned to the ca. 1790-1810 period.

Nova Treasure

 

[shattercane]

Re: tongue buckle question

Found this item while detecting pre 1900 house site. Looks like a half of a tongue and wreath to me. It is silver colored and had little corrosion even after being in the ground so long. A magnet doesn't stick and there is no writing on the back.
Can anyone out there offer any information on it. The man who homesteaded this place was in the Civil War and nobody else who lived there served in any military. Could it be that old? This site was in Kansas.

Looks like you solved this one right of the bat nova treasure. thankyou very much. I have been trying to id that thing for over a decade including sending a picture to Mark Parker and have had no luck. Now my question is "how in the world did it get to Kansas."

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: tongue buckle question

Found this item while detecting pre 1900 house site. Looks like a half of a tongue and wreath to me. It is silver colored and had little corrosion even after being in the ground so long. A magnet doesn't stick and there is no writing on the back.
Can anyone out there offer any information on it. The man who homesteaded this place was in the Civil War and nobody else who lived there served in any military. Could it be that old? This site was in Kansas.

Looks like you solved this one right of the bat nova treasure. thankyou very much. I have been trying to id that thing for over a decade including sending a picture to Mark Parker and have had no luck. Now my question is "how in the world did it get to Kansas."

that's for you to answer

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: tongue buckle question

Found this item while detecting pre 1900 house site. Looks like a half of a tongue and wreath to me. It is silver colored and had little corrosion even after being in the ground so long. A magnet doesn't stick and there is no writing on the back.
Can anyone out there offer any information on it. The man who homesteaded this place was in the Civil War and nobody else who lived there served in any military. Could it be that old? This site was in Kansas.

Looks like you solved this one right of the bat nova treasure. thankyou very much. I have been trying to id that thing for over a decade including sending a picture to Mark Parker and have had no luck. Now my question is "how in the world did it get to Kansas."

That's funny, that website has been around for many years, and I believe your buckle is the 4th I've seen posted. It you posted it to relic forums I'm surprised you didn't get an answer. It is in excellent condition, so good I was glad to read they were plated with silver because the ones I recall were just brass looking.

 

[shattercane]

Re: tongue buckle question

Found this item while detecting pre 1900 house site. Looks like a half of a tongue and wreath to me. It is silver colored and had little corrosion even after being in the ground so long. A magnet doesn't stick and there is no writing on the back.
Can anyone out there offer any information on it. The man who homesteaded this place was in the Civil War and nobody else who lived there served in any military. Could it be that old? This site was in Kansas.

Looks like you solved this one right of the bat nova treasure. thankyou very much. I have been trying to id that thing for over a decade including sending a picture to Mark Parker and have had no luck. Now my question is "how in the world did it get to Kansas."

That's funny, that website has been around for many years, and I believe your buckle is the 4th I've seen posted. It you posted it to relic forums I'm surprised you didn't get an answer. It is in excellent condition, so good I was glad to read they were plated with silver because the ones I recall were just brass looking.

I did not send it on a website. I took a 35 millimeter picture and sent to Mark in the mail years ago. I mostly just watched the treasure magazines hoping to see one. I just recently got on the web. I guess that is why it took me so long to get it identified.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: tongue buckle question

Found this item while detecting pre 1900 house site. Looks like a half of a tongue and wreath to me. It is silver colored and had little corrosion even after being in the ground so long. A magnet doesn't stick and there is no writing on the back.
Can anyone out there offer any information on it. The man who homesteaded this place was in the Civil War and nobody else who lived there served in any military. Could it be that old? This site was in Kansas.

Looks like you solved this one right of the bat nova treasure. thankyou very much. I have been trying to id that thing for over a decade including sending a picture to Mark Parker and have had no luck. Now my question is "how in the world did it get to Kansas."

That's funny, that website has been around for many years, and I believe your buckle is the 4th I've seen posted. It you posted it to relic forums I'm surprised you didn't get an answer. It is in excellent condition, so good I was glad to read they were plated with silver because the ones I recall were just brass looking.

I did not send it on a website. I took a 35 millimeter picture and sent to Mark in the mail years ago. I mostly just watched the treasure magazines hoping to see one. I just recently got on the web. I guess that is why it took me so long to get it identified.

Yes, had you been online you probably would have got an answer sooner. The first time I seen that ID'ed was about 7 years ago. It's a good thing you kept trying because I'm guessing you're pleased with the result.

 

[Gunny71]

That is a very sweet find!

 

[kuger]

Have seen several surface in the last few years on here,odd for how rare they are?Great find!!!!I have still yet to see an example of the proper wreath

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

a friend of mine on facebook dug this and posted asking what is this? i came across this thread and figured I'd ask the experts .so here it is.found in michigan.is it the same age as the one on this post?