TREE MAP??? SPANISH MAP??

neal S. · Dec 23, 2009

This was found on a 150 - 200 year old pine tree. Just outside of flagstaff az.
Any ideas

?
Maybe nothing but it is in a strange area with no close traffic routes.
Real close to san francisco peaks.

Thanks for any help.

hhta
neals

kuger · Dec 23, 2009

Sure doesnt look like a Pine,are you sure thats not an Aspen? :icon_scratch:

dneyedli@res1.mts.net · Dec 23, 2009

That would have me taking a second look! All I can say is that I feel that was done by human hands and doesn't look like a natural coincidence.
I hope there's treasure nearby!
Dave.

whynot · Dec 23, 2009

Sure doesnt look like a Pine,are you sure thats not an Aspen?

I was thinking more like Altec Lansing or JBL

Look for another tree with the same mark and enjoy the stereo of outdoors!
-whynot

Chris_Odom · Dec 23, 2009

I have seen that symbol before meaning light but i do not remember who did it, i will help search.

Chris_Odom · Dec 23, 2009

Sorry the symbol was for wich or as we know it witch, and I see the differance. Here are the symbols for what I am talking about.

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...q=symbols+for+light&hl=en&rlz=1R2GGLL_en&um=1

Discard last post.

I dont think this has anything to do with your find. Sorry, good luck IDing.

traderoftreasures · Dec 24, 2009

i don't know if its pine but i can clearly see pine needles around the tree in question. but the bark looks aspen

Shortstack · Dec 24, 2009

I was about to say it isn't a pine tree, too, but then I took a second look
and noticed the area of pine bark on the lower right side (as looking at the picture).
Looks like someone stripped the flaky outer bark from a pine tree leaving the softer
inner bark to carve in. That would not kill the tree, but would leave a softer
area to carve in and it would also be easier to read, too. You can also see one of it's
own limbs hanging down in the upper right corner of the pic. Yep, I'd say it IS a pine tree.

kuger · Dec 25, 2009

Pines grow in the same habitat as Aspens,and Aspens bark becomes porous as seen and referred to as "Pine",bark, I do not believe it is a pine,it is irrelevant though.One would think the poster sure could set the record straight.Also how would one know the age without cutting the tree down? :icon_scratch:

Definitely an Aspen.......I digress

mjak · Dec 25, 2009

This is a map of a UFO landing site.

mjak

tymcmurray · Dec 25, 2009

I would consider it a map until disproven!!!
Look behind the tree for a larhe are represented by the circle.
Not sure of the distance.
Tree maps were usually lined up in the direction on the treasure.
Of course it could be reversed and the large circle is the tree.
I have a friend that always detects for about 50 yards behind an old stone mile marker
he can find. He read that those were great places to hide valuables.
Bood luck and keep me informed, please!!!

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Chris_Odom · Dec 25, 2009

tymcmurray said:
I would consider it a map until disproven!!!
Look behind the tree for a larhe are represented by the circle.
Not sure of the distance.
Tree maps were usually lined up in the direction on the treasure.
Of course it could be reversed and the large circle is the tree.
I have a friend that always detects for about 50 yards behind an old stone mile marker
he can find. He read that those were great places to hide valuables.
Bood luck and keep me informed, please!!!

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Finally someone commenting on the symbol and not the tree, lol. The symbol that i see there is the ancent symbol for Sun, or it could be a messed up Alchemy symbol for gold. The smaller dots could mean a number of things. I also notice there is a small dot on the outside of the box this might be part of the map or code. Check here it might help. . .
http://books.google.com/books?id=06...ontcover&dq=symbols&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

tymcmurray · Dec 25, 2009

Chris_Odom said:
tymcmurray said:

I would consider it a map until disproven!!!
Look behind the tree for a larhe are represented by the circle.
Not sure of the distance.
Tree maps were usually lined up in the direction on the treasure.
Of course it could be reversed and the large circle is the tree.
I have a friend that always detects for about 50 yards behind an old stone mile marker
he can find. He read that those were great places to hide valuables.
Bood luck and keep me informed, please!!!

_________________
Tips, Techniques, and Tales at:

http://www.justgometaldetecting.com/

Click to expand...

Finally someone commenting on the symbol and not the tree, lol. The symbol that i see there is the ancent symbol for Sun, or it could be a messed up Alchemy symbol for gold. The smaller dots could mean a number of things. I also notice there is a small dot on the outside of the box this might be part of the map or code. Check here it might help. . .
http://books.google.com/books?id=06...ontcover&dq=symbols&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Great information!!! On page 518 it also says that the the top symbol was a hobo symbol for food and MONEY available.......Mmmmm. The solid dot stood for stop. The small symbol was used at on time for the number 10.
So, one way to interret it would be to walk 10 feet, paces or yardsfrom that spot and look for money. :icon_thumleft:

That is just one interretation.

Again, good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Chris_Odom · Dec 25, 2009

Good thinking tymcmurray. it sounds like it is worth a shot. try 10 backwards from the tree symbol then forward, if nothing then 20 then all the way around the tree 1-20, lol, I would.

tymcmurray · Dec 28, 2009

Have you got back out there, neal

Ty

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Breezie · Dec 28, 2009

I absolutely believe it is a map for treasure. Great work Chris & kudos to Murray!
Keep us posted on what you find. Breezie

SkyPirate · Dec 28, 2009

I don't think he really cares if it's a Pine tree or not, What about the symbol? >:(

SkyPirate · Dec 28, 2009

Aspen Scars:
The dark scars on the aspen tree's white bark are caused by elk, deer and other foraging animals that nibble on the soft inner bark when deep snows bury grasses and shrubs. Besides chewing on aspen bark for food, elk and mule deer rub their antlers against the trunks to shed velvet in autumn. Other aspen scars are made by black bears marking their territory, and woodpeckers creating holes to search for insects or make nests. If injured or grazed on too severely, some of these aspen trees will die. Healthy aspens without scars thrive where there are fewer impacts from wildlife.

Also see Aspen leaves and American Beech bark:

Breezie · Dec 28, 2009

I googled 'carved aspen tree,' then clicked on images; there were close to 90,000. Obviously carving aspen trees is quite an artform. Here's a little history:
http://nathanabels.blogspot.com/2008/02/carved-aspen-tree-art-and-history.html
http://www.arborglyphs.com/index.html

Breezie

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 29, 2009

Breezie -

(Added) Great minds must think alike! I didn't even see your Arborglyph link until I had already posted mine!

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Typically they are referred to as "Arborglyphs" and most were done by Basque sheephearders. And are found in many different states. Usually at higher elevations where sheep were allowed to graze during the summer months. There and numerous websites devoted to the subject. The link below is just one of them.

Check out the link below to get you started on the Arborglyph trail!

http://www.knowledgecenter.unr.edu/sheepherders/arborglyphs.html

SODA"SHEEPHEARDER"BOB