Vacent Land.

njrelicgairl · Apr 2, 2015

Hello
I have had my eyes on a piece of vacent Land,since last year,to do some metal detecting.
Today i found out that it was autioned off to a company that is called crusader servicing corporation.
Im looking to gain permission,to detect,that piece of land. The only thing is,would it be a wise thing to
try and do so? or would i get no where?

njrelictgairl

kingskid1611 · Apr 2, 2015

If ya don't ask ya won't know. Go for it

bzbadger · Apr 2, 2015

A vacant lot as long as they aren't building on it would be something id hunt. I'd make contact with the owners, tell them you would like to detect on their "empty" lot and say this..i will remove any trash I find. Say we always try to leave a place better than we find it..those words ho a long way with people. But establish you want to detect their empty lot do not use the word hunt. Get permission and keep the place clean and who knows they may have other property.

Jeremy S · Apr 3, 2015

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That company has a pretty crooked past!

I would show up at their office and ask permission in person. I did just that with the owner of an investment company last year. He was hesitant to give me permission at first until I offered to pick up garbage (and there was a lot of it!).

Tom_in_CA · Apr 3, 2015

njrelictgairl , didn't you loose your wedding ring, or your dad loose his boyscout ring there long ago ? I'm sure they'd have no trouble with you going to look for it.

Treasure_Hunter · Apr 3, 2015

Tom so your encouraging members to lie to hunt....

cudamark · Apr 3, 2015

Treasure_Hunter said:
Tom so your encouraging members to lie to hunt....

Maybe some white lies. :laughing7:

If I ask permission to hunt a property, I usually compliment them on what a great place they have......even if it's an ugly, termite ridden, junk pile. Salesmanship and being nice is not always about being COMPLETELY truthful, assuming you want to be successful.

Treasure_Hunter · Apr 3, 2015

cudamark said:
Maybe some white lies. If I ask permission to hunt a property, I usually compliment them on what a great place they have......even if it's an ugly, termite ridden, junk pile. Salesmanship and being nice is not always about being COMPLETELY truthful, assuming you want to be successful.

Big difference between that and lying that you lost personal property there... What does that teach kids?

bzbadger · Apr 3, 2015

Seriously lying gets you no where but in trouble. Some people call it karma I call it God reaching down and smacking you for the wrong you did. You're right TH what does it teach others here and the kids.

bigfoot1 · Apr 3, 2015

no need to make anything up.And a little white lie is not going to get my panties in a wad.but.....no need.

be honest....offer to give the very person you are talking to 1st pick.offer to provide your back up machine so he/she can join the adventure,show enthusiasim...be a little dorky

this has worked countless times for me...usually they wont join you...dont want 1st pick

bottlecap · Apr 4, 2015

bigfoot1 said:
no need to make anything up.And a little white lie is not going to get my panties in a wad.but.....no need.

be honest....offer to give the very person you are talking to 1st pick.offer to provide your back up machine so he/she can join the adventure,show enthusiasim...be a little dorky

this has worked countless times for me...usually they wont join you...dont want 1st pick

Just how hard do you have to try to convey the dorkiness?? :laughing7:

I'm kidding bigfoot, I know exactly what you mean :occasion14:

Tom_in_CA · Apr 4, 2015

Technically, yes: the "ruse" of saying you're looking for a ring, is a lie. Can call it a "little white lie", or "ruse" or whatever, but technically, you are right Treasure-hunter. I guess I get so durned sick of some of the senseless "no's" passed out to us, that my conscience becomes calloused after awhile, to this one thing.

Question: if someone chucks a silver ring off a ski lift (so that he can come back and "look for it" after the spring thaw), or if you chuck a silver ring 40 or 50 yards from the street, into a vacant lot, then in that case, it would not technically be lying, eh ?

njrelicgairl · Apr 4, 2015

Hello
Thanks for your reply's.
The company office is localed 2 hours away from where i live.
Im not going to travel that fare for permission. ill just make a
phone call to the office,and see what they say. dont worry im not going to lie. Thanks Happy easter

Skippy SH13 · Apr 6, 2015

Treasure_Hunter said:
Big difference between that and lying that you lost personal property there... What does that teach kids?

Amen. Hard to have integrity, when you're not having integrity. Best to simply tell the truth. Selling something is not the same thing as LYING.

Good grief.

Skippy SH13 · Apr 6, 2015

Good for you.

Happy Easter!

njrelicgairl said:
Hello
Thanks for your reply's.
The company office is localed 2 hours away from where i live.
Im not going to travel that fare for permission. ill just make a
phone call to the office,and see what they say. dont worry im not going to lie. Thanks Happy easter

Higgy · Apr 6, 2015

Always better to ask first. It'll keep your karma nice and round instead of crooked and jaggedy. :thumbsup:

Jeremy S · Apr 7, 2015

Good luck on the permission! If they say no, oh well :dontknow:

. Just wait until they sell it to the next guy and then ask them.

My personal rule when asking permission about properties: I always come up with several to ask about on the same day. That way when 1 or 2 shoots me down, usually at least 1 other works out. Worse case I get shot down by everybody, then either I go to one of my good ol' public parks or just say "screw it" and have some beers with my friends.

njrelicgairl · Apr 8, 2015

Hello
Well, I have desided not to call and ask for Permission for this land,Why?
well,I was told the other day, by a friend of my father, that that property is
Dangeries,and has a lot of holes,and rats running around. There was a home that
stud there in the early 1800s,. He told me that he is only looking out for my safety.

Tom_in_CA · Apr 9, 2015

Huh ? places where "homes stood there till the early 1800s", that are "dangerous" with "holes and rats" are the BEST places to metal detect. And .... safety is so over-rated anyhow. Doh !

garyo1954 · Apr 9, 2015

Thanks for being honest!

When people become deceptive to metal detect, I don't understand how they can complain when others become deceptive to keep them off the property.

I understand about the dangers. I once mowed a single mom's yard on my dime. Grass was a foot high or more. Ran over tree limbs, cans and bottles and pipes sticking out of the ground you'd never know was there. Ruined the blades.