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Very Early American Button and an Unidentified Relic

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I tried to get out for a bit after work to a cellar hole that I have not been back to in quite a while.

Lesson Learned:
Do not go out to wooded marshy areas while wearing cologne! I was besieged by thousands of mosquitoes. It was just unbearable! I lasted less than 30 minutes, but I managed a nice 14mm button and a broken relic that I need help identifying. The button turned out to be an early American button, my guess is circa 1800. It is in fairly good shape with much of the plating remaining.

The relic is approximately 3 1/4" long.

At least I did not get skunked!

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I get quite a few pieces like that, can't remember what they are from :icon_scratch: Pretty sure they are brass, window related :dontknow: not sure, hopefully someone will ID it :help: (maybe horse)
 
The bugs love the sweet smell of man wearing cologne. Lol
 
nice old button :icon_thumleft: MR TUFF
 
Not sure what the brass pieces are too. The button could be British made and probably dates 1800 to 1820 or so. I believe all the buttons marked plated were silver plated while the gold plated buttons were marked gilt.
 
vayank54 said:
Not sure what the brass pieces are too. The button could be British made and probably dates 1800 to 1820 or so. I believe all the buttons marked plated were silver plated while the gold plated buttons were marked gilt.

as its 'treble plated' it was 3 layers of Gilt. I still don't believe that many of the silver (colour) plated buttons from this period actually used silver (think of the shortage of silver in the UK, its the period of bank token's made of silver with a higher value than weight). Its closer to a type of chrome, never (from the thousands of this type) have I found one coming out like silver. Never blacken or oxidised. (of course there will be the odd silver plated about)
 
vayank54 said:
Not sure what the brass pieces are too. The button could be British made and probably dates 1800 to 1820 or so. I believe all the buttons marked plated were silver plated while the gold plated buttons were marked gilt.

Agreed, I believe most of the buttons with any Eagle, Crown, Feathers, Wreaths, etc; on the backmark were British manufactured. (Ref: Tice)

Don

Ah Neil, cologne while pingin, naw, bad decision, also I think clothing color might also be a factor, I sure know it is for Greenheads! They sure love the black bicycling shorts and sure does hurt while trying to out run them on bicycle. ;D I was told by those who live in the Del Bay area not to wear black in summer near the Bay, and I sure heed that advice now. :wink:
 
Don in SJ said:
vayank54 said:
Not sure what the brass pieces are too. The button could be British made and probably dates 1800 to 1820 or so. I believe all the buttons marked plated were silver plated while the gold plated buttons were marked gilt.

Agreed, I believe most of the buttons with any Eagle, Crown, Feathers, Wreaths, etc; on the backmark were British manufactured. (Ref: Tice)

Don

Ah Neil, cologne while pingin, naw, bad decision, also I think clothing color might also be a factor, I sure know it is for Greenheads! They sure love the black bicycling shorts and sure does hurt while trying to out run them on bicycle. ;D I was told by those who live in the Del Bay area not to wear black in summer near the Bay, and I sure heed that advice now. :wink:

I remember those greenheads from my days on the South Shore of Long Island, and I sure do not miss them. They inflict one painful bite. I am not sure which is worse though. the pain of the greenhead or the itch of the mosquito.
 
Neil in West Jersey said:
Don in SJ said:
vayank54 said:
Not sure what the brass pieces are too. The button could be British made and probably dates 1800 to 1820 or so. I believe all the buttons marked plated were silver plated while the gold plated buttons were marked gilt.

Agreed, I believe most of the buttons with any Eagle, Crown, Feathers, Wreaths, etc; on the backmark were British manufactured. (Ref: Tice)

Don

Ah Neil, cologne while pingin, naw, bad decision, also I think clothing color might also be a factor, I sure know it is for Greenheads! They sure love the black bicycling shorts and sure does hurt while trying to out run them on bicycle. ;D I was told by those who live in the Del Bay area not to wear black in summer near the Bay, and I sure heed that advice now. :wink:

I remember those greenheads from my days on the South Shore of Long Island, and I sure do not miss them. They inflict one painful bite. I am not sure which is worse though. the pain of the greenhead or the itch of the mosquito.

nice stuff, Neil.
i personally believe that chewing tobacco helps keep the bugs at bay, but you've got to have good aim!
 
dwayne sueno said:
Neil in West Jersey said:
Don in SJ said:
vayank54 said:
Not sure what the brass pieces are too. The button could be British made and probably dates 1800 to 1820 or so. I believe all the buttons marked plated were silver plated while the gold plated buttons were marked gilt.

Agreed, I believe most of the buttons with any Eagle, Crown, Feathers, Wreaths, etc; on the backmark were British manufactured. (Ref: Tice)

Don

Ah Neil, cologne while pingin, naw, bad decision, also I think clothing color might also be a factor, I sure know it is for Greenheads! They sure love the black bicycling shorts and sure does hurt while trying to out run them on bicycle. ;D I was told by those who live in the Del Bay area not to wear black in summer near the Bay, and I sure heed that advice now. :wink:

I remember those greenheads from my days on the South Shore of Long Island, and I sure do not miss them. They inflict one painful bite. I am not sure which is worse though. the pain of the greenhead or the itch of the mosquito.

nice stuff, Neil.
i personally believe that chewing tobacco helps keep the bugs at bay, but you've got to have good aim!

The Garret Pro Pointer certainly didn't help much, but it must have been quite a scene seeing me waving it like a madman!
 
Maybe we should carry cologne and spray it on trees on the outskirts of a site.
 

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