Veteran's hotel reservations are being cancelled to allow refugees to have the room

[Gulf Coast Pirate]

And housing migrants is a miniscule fraction of that. So small that it is effectively insignificant. Its almost like they pump out stories like this just to get people fired up about nothing so they're distracted from the actual problems.

Shocking Cost of the Illegal Immigration Crisis to Americans

As record numbers of illegal aliens continue to flood across our southern border, they are being dispersed into every congressional district in the country, making every state a border state. We’re told they’re merely coming to seek a better life.

www.heritage.org

 

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[Whynotnow?]

You're right this one instance is miniscule, but it's happening all over the country!! Plus add food stamps, health care and the crime that these undesirables bring with them and the cost is significant!

Social programs are what tax dollars are supposed to pay for though. I'd much rather it go to that than the military industrial complex, or a corporate bailout, or just being "unaccounted for" by the CIA.

 

[ticndig]

What values are we losing

Many traditional American values are lost and never coming back, if you need a list you're asleep at the wheel.
I'd be willing to bet you think boys can be girls

 

[Gulf Coast Pirate]

Social programs are what tax dollars are supposed to pay for though. I'd much rather it go to that than the military industrial complex, or a corporate bailout, or just being "unaccounted for" by the CIA.

Federal tax dollars should go to national defense. Period. The government isn't supposed to be a nanny!

 

[Whynotnow?]

Many traditional American values are lost and never coming back, if you need a list you're asleep at the wheel.
I'd be willing to bet you think boys can be girls

I dont need a list if you can give me a single "traditional American value" that we have lost I'll concede to you. And FYI, gender norms are not a tradition American value, thats more a universal thing than specifically American.

 

[Tpmetal]

These are refugees, not illegal immigrants. They did not break the law to get here, and have done nothing illegal. The hotel chain made the decision to house them because it is more profitable than taking in normal reservations. To do this, they canceled reservations that had already been made, some of which were people who booked for a football game and were possibly veterans. The title of this post makes it sound way more nefarious than it actually is.

Respectfully you need to look up the legal definitions and stipulations associated with refugee status. One includes seeking refugee status in the nearest country. Not crossing several to arrive at the one of your choice. Also the fact that you have to go to a legal point of entry, not sneak in across the border where you please the way the vast majority of these people have.

 

[pepperj]

What values are we losing? Just curious, because this is literally just hotel rooms.

Here think about this one for a bit.

 

[Whynotnow?]

Respectfully you need to look up the legal definitions and stipulations associated with refugee status. One includes seeking refugee status in the nearest country. Not crossing several to arrive at the one of your choice. Also the fact that you have to go to a legal point of entry, not sneak in across the border where you please the way the vast majority of these people have.

I understand that, but from this article theres no way to know if they became refugees the wrong way or the right way. The article called them refugees, so I did too. Either way, it doesnt matter what their status is. Massachusetts has a law that requires the state to provide housing for homeless people, regardless of citizenship, which is why this is happening.

 

[Whynotnow?]

Here think about this one for a bit.View attachment 2108434

And how is that relevant to this at all? Are you trying to say your right to a hotel room has been infringed?

 

[ticndig]

I dont need a list if you can give me a single "traditional American value" that we have lost I'll concede to you. And FYI, gender norms are not a tradition American value, thats more a universal thing than specifically American.

respect for elders , not normalizing homosexuality , not normalizing pedophilia . respect for the law .

 

[ticndig]

how many are willing to support in your home

I'm still interested in hearing your answer hobot37

 

[Whynotnow?]

respect for elders , not looking normalizing homosexuality , not normalizing pedophilia . respect for the law .

See thats what I'm saying, those arent traditional American values. Those are mostly universally accepted in all countries. And the homosexuality one is more specifically a Christian/religious value. American values are things like individual freedom and equality, stuff like that. Two things that should make homosexuality perfectly acceptable no?. Why shouldnt two consenting adults be allowed to do what they want?

 

[Tpmetal]

I understand that, but from this article theres no way to know if they became refugees the wrong way or the right way. The article called them refugees, so I did too. Either way, it doesnt matter what their status is. Massachusetts has a law that requires the state to provide housing for homeless people, regardless of citizenship, which is why this is happening.

Just because someone writes refugee, rarely is it true. And I know this because you can literally know unless the fled life threatening circumstances from Mexico or Canada they are not refugees. And other refugee status has to be determined by our branches of gov't in a legal way through a very specific process that usually is based off an extreme event or civil unrest happening in a specific place.... its really not that hard. Anyone who did not come to a legal port of entry AND also have legitimate claim to refugee status are an illegal alien end of story.

 

[Whynotnow?]

Just because someone writes refugee, rarely is it true. And I know this because you can literally know unless the fled life threatening circumstances from Mexico or Canada they are not refugees. And other refugee status has to be determined by our branches of gov't in a legal way through a very specific process that usually is based off an extreme event or civil unrest happening in a specific place.... its really not that hard. Anyone who did not come to a legal port of entry AND also have legitimate claim to refugee status are an illegal alien end of story.

And you know for a fact the people in this article didnt do that?

 

[Whynotnow?]

I'm still interested in hearing your answer hobot37

If there are people in need I have no issue with helping. Thats why I have no issue with my tax dollars paying for their hotel rooms. I dont think people should be left on the street just because they crossed an imaginary line in an attempt to seek a better life.

 

[ticndig]

I'm still interested in hearing your answer hobot37

how many will you house .

 

[Tpmetal]

And you know for a fact the people in this article didnt do that?

Yes because they were not from a bordering country and lately we have not made any offers to legally take refugees from anywhere as far as I know. If you know of a specific event that lately we took refugees from Venezuela(which is what I'm reading is where the majority are from) then please point me in the direction of when that happened.

 

[Whynotnow?]

how many will you house .

None, because I pay tax dollars that are supposed to do that. Whether I will personally take people into my home is irrelevant.

 

[Whynotnow?]

Yes because they were not from a bordering country and lately we have not made any offers to legally take refugees from anywhere as far as I know. If you know of a specific event that lately we took refugees from Venezuela(which is what I'm reading is where the majority are from) then please point me in the direction of when that happened.

It doesnt say in the article where they are from or anything specific about them so I'm confused how you've determined what their status is.

 

[SeabeeRon]

Some progress is being made:

US restarting direct deportations to Venezuela, security secretary says

The United States is restarting deportations of Venezuelans who cross the U.S.-Mexico border unlawfully, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said on Thursday, part of attempts to curb a record number of migrant crossings.

www.reuters.com