what do you think this was??

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in 28 years of taking care of this village site i have never seen this thing or anything close to it before

anyone have ideas? here lookie now......it is made from a split rib bone....maybe split elk rib

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IDK...maybe a short hair pin?
 

looks like a fancy pressure flaker too me sir,but i never find any bone so i really do not know.and the only one i own from bone is the one you had sent me,which i really like.it looks like a person kinda,do you think the marks on the tip could of been made by flint?
 

Hair pin is a great guess. Larson what are you thinking?
 

Hair pins are usually much smoother and polished, perhaps a tool to incise and indent pottery?
 

Hair pins are usually much smoother and polished, perhaps a tool to incise and indent pottery?

Perhaps, I have seen many hair pins from my area that exceed 8 inches.
 

It doesn't appear to be finished as well as the other bone pieces you find. Right now, it looks like it's anybody's guess. But whatever it is, it sure is nice, and I like it a lot.
 

Very nice find Larson the "bone king"
 

Cool piece of bone. I find a lot of bone stuff here. These are local beads, awl, and one piece reminds me of yours
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thank you for the input here

i like the ideas of a hair pin or some kind of pottery tool

i am puzzled by it?

we just found it yesterday
 

My guess is it went in a natives tool kit.. Parts to his mcgyver knife :) awesome find either way since they specifically designed it with that shape. Little grooves are like a few I have found but I'm also unsure of the actual use
 

One of the many things I love about Steve's site is that is shows some of the number & variety of bone tools that they made and used. Most of us rarely get to find them or see them. (Occasionally a sturdy trigger awl survives, but older groups probably made a similar variety of tools to what the Mandan made.) I remember some of his famous dirt shots that showed fragments of split and cut bone littering the ground, it was a handy resource and they used it.

As for guesses go, Hairpin works because people understand what you mean, but I don't think there is any evidence to support the concept. If you look at the Mississippian and Woodland pipe and pottery effigies, I can't think of any that have hair pins (and they are oddly well known for showing hairstyles including braids, top knots, forelocks, etc.) If you look at paintings by Catlin or even some of the hide paintings by NA artists at the time, I haven't seen anything that looks like hairpins. If you look at hundreds of pictures from the mound excavations from the Ohio River valley, you see a lot of bone tools, but none stuck where the hair would be.

I'd guess it probably something entirely functional.

Most people who wore cloaks/robes, used a pin/toggle to close it. I could see something like that being used to temporarily hold two pieces of leather together. In Montana some of the groups used longer pieces of rib bone to "stitch up" the front of a tipi. Included is a picture to show what I mean. If you look at the little shelter beside the girl, something is holding together two pieces of cloth. A lot of little things are pinned to the ground. I could see a lot functional uses for something like that.

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Picture came out small, that's just the picture from wikipedia for tipi if you want to see a super-sized version.
 

Picture came out small, that's just the picture from wikipedia for tipi if you want to see a super-sized version.

It came out fine it will enlarge if you click on it.
 

Here is an idea, I'm sure that most tribes weaved baskets, could this be a tool to help in that. Just a idea.
 

many thanks for all the input on this different little piece
we most likely will never know exactly what it is
the tipi was not used by the mandans however since they built earth lodges for their homes but once again i sure appreciate all the thoughts and ideas
HH'ing this season to all my good friends here

larson1951
 

I think it's an awesome find !!!!
 

maybe monster has an idea
or maybe some type of perforating tool?
 

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