YOUR OPINION AND WHY - All welcome to join the debate - DID PIRATES BURY TREASURES ?

[ARC]

Got some pics of treasure hunters John Bird and Sonny Dennis... in De Leon Springs... getting interviewed about treasure.

Looking for em...

Here are some 50's again...

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[ARC]

I could go on all night.

Talk about "treasure fever"...
The pic of the boats is of a treasure hunt... organized by locals.
As well as the beach one.

 

[kingskid1611]

They isn't working for me. The attachments.

 

[bill from lachine]

ARRC,

For some reason or other your recent links don't work.

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[ARC]

General Note
80 year-old gold digger George B. Mobley watches an excavation by electric dragline for a buried treasure chest, buried by pirates who once ranged the east coast of Florida.

Mobley holds his "money finding" device he invented in hand.

The other is "fragments"...

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[ECS]

...
Gaspar existed... because I have SEEN... what thy have not.
IT IS PUBLIC RECORD... Documented and available... and has been for WELL OVER 100 years...
.

Are you referring to the story of Juan "Johnny" Gomez, and the Gaspar treasure maps Pablo Sanchez claim Gomez gave to him, which he attempted to sell during the 1930's playing up the name of a certain festival in Tampa, and eventually sold the maps to hotel night clerk, Rick Cole in Miami, and Cole had his friend, Charles R Hale, build a LRL to search for the treasure?
Or are you referring to a 1904 TAMPA TRIBUNE article by Mary Louise Dodge?

 

[ARC]

ARRC,

For some reason or other your recent links don't work.

Regards + HH

Bill

Hmmm... that sucks.

 

[ARC]

Are you referring to the story of Juan "Johnny" Gomez, and the Gaspar treasure maps Pablo Sanchez claim Gomez gave to him, which he attempted to sell during the 1930's playing up the name of a certain festival in Tampa, and eventually sold the maps to hotel night clerk, Rick Cole in Miami, and Cole had his friend, Charles R Hale, build a LRL to search for the treasure?
Or are you referring to a 1904 TAMPA TRIBUNE article by Mary Louise Dodge?

No story...

This is government doc.

No Gomez... who btw did and also existed...

I met a man while in my time in the keys who showed me three gold coins...
They were given to him for payment for large oil lamps... and some other things he bought from time to time...
The old man who showed me these coins was 88 years old...
He dealt in boat equipment and had a lot of nautical antiques...
Which I purchased a few from time to time from him.

The story went in one ear and out the other...
Till he died...
And wife found letter from Gomez talking about a motor and the payment was in a coffee can...
She later found 30 gold escudos in a coffee can on a shelf.

 

[ARC]

Gomez payed for his entire life in gold.

When he died it was frenzy... the people that knew him had to hide...
Hunters came from all over the state to look for where he was getting them.

One guy had a heart attack and died in the search I was told as a kid.

SO... put that in your pipe and smoke it. :P

 

[ARC]

Mobley again...

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[ARC]

This picture tells it all folks...

It was taken a midnight...

If that is not a "frenzy"... what is ?

DO YOU KNOW... why we do not ever see "treasure maps" per say... ?

Because men like these... OWN THEM... and have since the word "treasure" was spoken...
YES many fakes were made and sold...
But men would fly to the far reaches of the earth to purchase any and all potential information.

Information was the key... and the wealthy held them all...
And wanted more...
They wanted it before the next guy... and everything was kept on the DL concerning who what where and when...
After all...
It could be worth millions...

AGAIN... this picture was taken at MIDNIGHT... heh

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[ARC]

Back in those days... if you had enough money and knew someone...

You could purchase maps from the employees of the Archives... THE MAP... not a copy.

Library of congress lost many many maps and information in the fifties to unscrupulous dealers of this material...
Bribes of influential people were talked of...
People who had access to the records... stole them and pursued treasure...

The treasure frenzy itself... buried these "things" even deeper from view.
Some... forever.

I would guess that over half to 75 of the records of pirate locations and activities and important information concerning "treasures"...
ended up in the trash eventually... or resold ... or used for starting a fire. heh

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[ARC]

Here is a picture of an officer who was involved in the dig...
covered in gold "fragments" after mobley "chewed up" gold coins.
There are a few stories I have run across on this...

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[ARC]

First "whole" coin" that they pulled out...

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[ARC]

This is what the State was getting around this same time...
From the treasure coast...

The value the state gave this "lot" was $55,000

Treasure fever was everywhere in Florida...

heh

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[kingskid1611]

AAAHHHH attachments don't work and I am trying to keep up.......

 

[ARC]

"alot" of huge Spanish gold bars ... was one story...

The one that stuck was... A gold bar... that might be Spanish ... and might be confederate... was found buried here.

Which do you believe ?

I think it was the right side in back of house is location.

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[kingskid1611]

I give up! This must be a private rant.

 

[ARC]

The bar that was seen by many and said later to really have been only one bar was described as a "large brick"...
Which would be a "gold loaf"... which is unheard of find...
Truly remarkable and historical...

Where is it now ?

 

[ARC]

I give up! This must be a private rant.

Not private ...
I do not know why pics are not coming up.