60 Minutes Benghazi "Witness" Wasnt There During the Attack

[Native Floridian]

So, overdoing it, as you put it, tunes the message out? That's because those tuning it out don't care about the truth. They only want to believe the sheepherder.

Pack, they do care about the truth. Just not the xright's version of the truth. because the Xright has banged the drum so loudly on this, it is now associated as an Xright smear campaign against Obama and Clinton. There is truth in that. Kill two political birds with one stone so to speak.

Regarding the truth about Benghazi, there is nothing that touches the President or Sec of State. The event itself was controlled (or not according to POV) by the military chain of command. The staffing and security events leading up to the attack were affected by the Ambassador himself who is on record declining additional security. Along with a multitude of other details that have nothing to do with Obama or Clinton.

The bottom line? When people who don't have a hate agenda, don't hate the president, who don't disrespect their president by calling him names, start to throw out serious allegations I and the rest of the country will start to listen. Until then have yourself a sweet little witch hunt!

 

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[onfire]

NF calling this guy a President just because he won with suspicious votes cast is a shame. The only thing that protects this guy is political correctness gone amok. And that was set up long before he was thought of.

 

[Bum Luck]

NF is correct,

Benghazi was a tragic event, miscalled by the ambassador.

I can't see how President Obama could have figured in it. At all.

You just can't conjure up a Seal Team out of thin air in a few minutes, as much as you'd like to sometimes.

 

[onfire]

NF is correct,

Benghazi was a tragic event, miscalled by the ambassador.

I can't see how President Obama could have figured in it. At all.

You just can't conjure up a Seal Team out of thin air in a few minutes, as much as you'd like to sometimes.

If the president can't do it why do we need him? Conjure up a seal team? Who else would do it? So what you give him credit for bin laden? Isn't the main reason for a president to keep us safe? Or maybe you think a goof can tell me and anyone else what's good for us?

 

[Native Floridian]

Asking the president to micro manage every embassy is a ridiculous expectation. That anyone would judge a president on such a level is uneducated at best.

The problem with the entire Benghazi incident is our failure to learn from it. Nothing has changed. Why? Because the Republicans have decided to engage in a "create a scandal witch hunt" , the real problem that caused Benghazi goes unattended. And that problem was not a security breakdown. It was a foreign policy breakdown. The failure by those who could have affected change to respond to changing political events in Libya. Events that changed it from a stable nation to one of anarchy. That's where the focus needs to be. Yet, because we have leaders in congress who are more interested in demonizing our president for political gain, nothing will change. One example of the non leadership in congress doing real damage to our country.

 

[UncleMatt]

I always find it interesting that for some winning the Presidency by a hanging chad is totally valid and legit. But when a few people are found to be engaging in voter fraud out of many millions on the other side of the political aisle, all of a sudden they feel voter fraud is some huge issue. Obama won by over 5 million votes. Yet we continue to hear how a couple of dems who voted more than once handed the victory to Obama. I just shake my head. Never mind right wing gerrymandering. Never mind if you go Google the words "republican voter fraud", that there are many stories that pop up. Lets just play pretend...

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Asking the president to micro manage every embassy is a ridiculous expectation. That anyone would judge a president on such a level is uneducated at best.

The problem with the entire Benghazi incident is our failure to learn from it. Nothing has changed. Why? Because the Republicans have decided to engage in a "create a scandal witch hunt" , the real problem that caused Benghazi goes unattended. And that problem was not a security breakdown. It was a foreign policy breakdown. The failure by those who could have affected change to respond to changing political events in Libya. Events that changed it from a stable nation to one of anarchy. That's where the focus needs to be. Yet, because we have leaders in congress who are more interested in demonizing our president for political gain, nothing will change. One example of the non leadership in congress doing real damage to our country.

Republicans did not create any of these, they were all on bo watch.

1. IRS targets Obama’s enemies:*The IRS targeted conservative and pro-Israel groups prior to the 2012 election. Questions are being raised about why this occurred, who ordered it, whether there was any White House involvement and whether there was an initial effort to hide who knew about the targeting and when.

2.*Benghazi:*This is actually three scandals in one:

A.The failure of administration to protect the Benghazi mission.

B.The changes made to the talking points in order to suggest the attack was motivated by an anti-Muslim video.

C.The refusal of the White House to say what President Obama did the night of the attack

3. Watching the AP:*The Justice Department performed a massive cull of Associated Press reporters’ phone records as part of a leak investigation.

4. Rosengate:*The Justice Department suggested that Fox News reporter James Rosen is a criminal for reporting about classified information and subsequently monitored his phones and emails.

5. Potential Holder perjury I:*Attorney General Eric Holder told Congress*he had never been associated with “potential prosecution” of a journalist for perjury when in fact he signed the affidavit that termed Rosen a potential criminal.

6. The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme:*Allowed weapons from the U.S. to “walk” across the border into the hands of Mexican drug dealers. The ATF*lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which were used in crimes, including the December 2010 killing of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

7. Potential Holder Perjury II:*Holder told Congress in May 2011 that he had just recently heard about the Fast and Furious gun walking scheme when there is evidence he may have known much earlier.

8. Sebelius demands payment:*HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius solicited donations from companies HHS might regulate. The money would be used to help her sign up uninsured Americans for ObamaCare.

9. The Pigford scandal:*An Agriculture Department effort that started as an attempt to compensate black farmers who had been discriminated against by the agency but evolved into a gravy train delivering several billion dollars in cash to thousands of additional minority and female farmers who probably didn’t face discrimination.

10. GSA gone wild:*The General Services Administration in 2010 held an $823,000 training conference in Las Vegas, featuring a clown and a mind readers. Resulted in the resignation of the GSA administrator.

11. Veterans Affairs in Disney World:*The agency wasted more than $6 million on two conferences in Orlando. An assistant secretary was fired.

12. Sebelius violates the Hatch Act:*A U.S. special counsel determined that Sebelius violated the Hatch Act when she made*“extemporaneous partisan remarks” during a speech in her official capacity last year. During the remarks, Sebelius called for the election of the Democratic candidate for governor of North Carolina.

13. Solyndra:*Republicans charged the Obama administration funded and promoted its poster boy for green energy despite warning signs the company was headed for bankruptcy.*The administration also allegedly pressed Solyndra to delay layoff announcements until after the 2010 midterm elections.

14. AKA Lisa Jackson:*Former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson used the name “Richard Windsor” when corresponding by email with other government officials, drawing charges she was trying to evade scrutiny.

15. The New Black Panthers:*The Justice Department was accused of using a racial double standard in failing to pursue a voter intimidation case against Black Panthers who appeared to be menacing voters at a polling place in 2008 in Philadelphia.

16. Waging war all by myself:*Obama may have violated the Constitution and both the letter and the spirit of the War Powers Resolution by attacking Libya without Congressional approval.

17. Biden bullies the press:*Vice President Biden’s office has repeatedly interfered with coverage, including forcing a reporter to wait in a closet, making a reporter delete photos, and editing pool reports.

18. AKPD not A-OK:*The administration paid millions to the former firm of then-White House adviser David Axelrod,*AKPD Message and Media, to promote passage of Obamacare. Some questioned whether the firm was hired to help pay Axelrod $2 million AKPD owed him.

19. Sestak, we’ll take care of you:*Former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel used Bill Clinton as an intermediary to probe whether former Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) would accept a prominent, unpaid White House advisory position in exchange for dropping out of the 2010 primary against former Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.).

20.*I’ll pass my own laws:*Obama has repeatedly been accused of making end runs around Congress by deciding which laws to enforce, including the decision not to deport illegal immigrants who may have been allowed to stay in the United States had Congress passed the “Dream Act.”

21. The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer:*It’s not clear who hacked the CBS reporter’s computer as she investigated the Benghazi scandal, but the Obama administration and its allies had both the motive and the means to do it.

22. An American Political Prisoner:*The sudden decision to arrest Nakoula Basseley Nakoula on unrelated charges after protests in the Arab world over his anti-Muslim video is an extraordinarily suspicious coincidence.*“We’re going to go out and we’re going to prosecute the person that made that video,” Hillary Clinton allegedly told the father of one of the ex-SEALs killed in Banghazi.

23. Get rid of inconvenient IGs:*Corporation for National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald*Walpin was fired in 2009 as he fought wasteful spending and investigated a friend of Obama’s, Sacramento Mayor and former NBA*player Kevin Johnson. The White House says Walpin was incompetent.

24. Influence peddling:*An investigation is underway of Alejandro Mayorkas, director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, who has been nominated by Obama for the number two post at the Department of Homeland Security. Mayorkas may have used his position to unfairly obtain U.S. visas for foreign investors in company run by Hillary Clinton’s brother, Anthony Rodman.

25. An intentional refusal to enforce federal immigration laws.
When states voted to enforce the federal immigration laws which the federal government refused to enforced, Obama sued to stop them.

26. Obamacare Used Obamacare as a pretext to greatly increase the size and power of the IRS (which was given 16,000 new agents and additional mandates to penalize taxpayers for noncompliance).

27. Death of Seal Team 6 Team. By loudly publicizing (for personal political gain) the identity of exact SEAL teams who had killed Osama bin Laden, Obama made them a target for reprisals by Islamists; a short time later 22 SEALS were shot down and killed in Afghanistan, their worst loss of life ever.

28. In June of 2011, he anointed his own underage daughters as “senior staff members” so that their vacation to Africa would be paid for with taxpayer money.

29. Obama’s Department of Energy awarded $529 million to Fisker Automotive to build their Karma hybrid electric cars — even though they are manufactured in Finland, cost over $100,000 each, and tend to explode.

30. Intentionally misquotes the Declaration of Independence in speeches, often leaving out the words “by their Creator” in the famous passage “…are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights,” which Obama instead has recited as “…are endowed with certain unalienable rights.”

(Under obama an effort is being made to remove the mention of Christian God from all records, from military and from school funtions.)










We will NOT go quitely into the night!

 

[Bum Luck]

If the president can't do it why do we need him? Conjure up a seal team? Who else would do it? So what you give him credit for bin laden? Isn't the main reason for a president to keep us safe? Or maybe you think a goof can tell me and anyone else what's good for us?

Here's the timeline; see what you'd have done differently.

9:40 p.m.: Gunfire is heard outside the Benghazi diplomatic mission, then a loud explosion. Dozens of armed militiamen charge the main gate and set fire to a barracks building as they make for the ambassador's residence.

10 p.m.: Attackers breach the mission walls and make for the ambassador's residence. Stevens and information officer Sean Smith run to a safe room with one security agent.

An alert is sent to the CIA security team at an annex about a mile away, the State Department and the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli. Stevens calls deputy mission chief Gregory Hicks at the embassy and tells him, "Greg, we're under attack."

10:30 p.m.: Stevens and Smith have taken refuge behind a fortified door with heavy metal bars that keeps the attackers from breaking in, but they set fire to the villa with diesel fuel. Within minutes, Stevens and Smith are overwhelmed by smoke.

At about the same time, six U.S. security agents leave the CIA annex for the main building. They and 16 Libyan security guards regain control over the compound and start searching for Stevens and Smith.

Shortly after 11 p.m.: A U.S. surveillance drone arrives over Benghazi. Then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey meet with President Barack Obama.

12:07 a.m., September 12: The State Department sends an e-mail to the White House, the Pentagon and the FBI indicating the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sharia claimed credit for the attack.

Issa demands more State Department documents on Benghazi

1:15 a.m.: A rescue team from Tripoli arrives in Benghazi. About 30 Americans have been rescued from the consulate building and are holed up with the Stevens at the CIA annex.

2 a.m.: Hicks informs Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that they need to evacuate all Americans from Benghazi. At about the same time, an eyewitness captures on video Stevens being pulled from the smoke-filled building.

4 a.m.: The attackers launch a full-on assault against the annex, dropping mortars on the roof. Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods are killed in the attack.

10 a.m.: The bodies of Stevens, Smith, Doherty and Woods are put on the last plane out of Benghazi.

This probably doesn't match with Infowars and the Blaze accounts, but not much this side of the Twilight Zone does.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Here's the timeline; see what you'd have done differently.

9:40 p.m.: Gunfire is heard outside the Benghazi diplomatic mission, then a loud explosion. Dozens of armed militiamen charge the main gate and set fire to a barracks building as they make for the ambassador's residence.

10 p.m.: Attackers breach the mission walls and make for the ambassador's residence. Stevens and information officer Sean Smith run to a safe room with one security agent.

An alert is sent to the CIA security team at an annex about a mile away, the State Department and the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli. Stevens calls deputy mission chief Gregory Hicks at the embassy and tells him, "Greg, we're under attack."

10:30 p.m.: Stevens and Smith have taken refuge behind a fortified door with heavy metal bars that keeps the attackers from breaking in, but they set fire to the villa with diesel fuel. Within minutes, Stevens and Smith are overwhelmed by smoke.

At about the same time, six U.S. security agents leave the CIA annex for the main building. They and 16 Libyan security guards regain control over the compound and start searching for Stevens and Smith.

Shortly after 11 p.m.: A U.S. surveillance drone arrives over Benghazi. Then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey meet with President Barack Obama.

12:07 a.m., September 12: The State Department sends an e-mail to the White House, the Pentagon and the FBI indicating the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sharia claimed credit for the attack.

Issa demands more State Department documents on Benghazi

1:15 a.m.: A rescue team from Tripoli arrives in Benghazi. About 30 Americans have been rescued from the consulate building and are holed up with the Stevens at the CIA annex.

2 a.m.: Hicks informs Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that they need to evacuate all Americans from Benghazi. At about the same time, an eyewitness captures on video Stevens being pulled from the smoke-filled building.

4 a.m.: The attackers launch a full-on assault against the annex, dropping mortars on the roof. Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods are killed in the attack.

10 a.m.: The bodies of Stevens, Smith, Doherty and Woods are put on the last plane out of Benghazi.

This probably doesn't match with Infowars and the Blaze accounts, but not much this side of the Twilight Zone does.

Your missing the start of your timeline. It is like starting a timeline report for Custer's last stand at "Last Stand Hill".

1st Obama lied and continued to lie that attack was due to video on YouTube. That was a known lie repeated many times by bo and by "what does it matter" Hillary Clinton.
THEY BOTH KNEW FROM THE START THIS WAS NOT TRUE.


The warning signs before the Benghazi attack

Prior to attack Al Qaeda had used a “familiar tactic” – posting its intentions online. It had vowed to attack the Red Cross, the British, and then the Americans in Benghazi. The group had already checked the first two boxes. America was next.

In the months before the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya, U.S. and allied intelligence agencies warned the White House and State Department repeatedly that the region was becoming an increasingly dangerous vortex for jihadist groups loosely linked or sympathetic to al Qaeda, according to U.S. officials.

Despite those warnings, and bold public displays by Islamist militants around Benghazi, embassies in the region were advised to project a sense of calm and normalcy in the run-up to the anniversary of the September 11 attacks in the United States.

So brazen was the Islamist presence in the Benghazi area that militants convened what they billed as the "First Annual Conference of Supporters of Shariah (Islamic law)" in the city in early June, promoting the event on Islamist websites.

Pictures from the conference posted on various Internet forums featured convoys flying al Qaeda banners, said Josh Lefkowitz of Flashpoint-Intel.com, a firm that monitors militant websites. Video clips showed vehicles with mounted artillery pieces, he added.

A research report prepared for a Pentagon counter-terrorism unit in August said the Benghazi conference brought together representatives of at least 15 Islamist militias. Among the paper's conclusions: these groups "probably make up the bulk of al Qaeda's network in Libya."

Drawing on multiple public sources, the Library of Congress researchers who drafted the paper also concluded that al Qaeda had used the "lack of security" in Libya to establish training camps there. It also reported that "hundreds of Islamic militants are in and around Derna," where special camps provided recruits with "weapons and physical training."

President Barack Obama's administration has repeatedly said it had no specific advance warning of an attack like the one that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi on the night of September 11.

But the reports of militants' growing clout in eastern Libya, and attempts by violent jihadists to take advantage of fragile new governments across northern Africa following the Arab Spring, appear to raise new questions about whether U.S. embassies took proper security precautions, and if not, why not....*There were specific events that would have led an analyst to the conclusion that it was a very dangerous place sucha as teh attacks on Western targets and the direct attack on the compound using an IED. *Then there was the Facebook threat against the ambassador only days before hand. *About the only thing lacking was a letter to Obama giving the time of the attack and the plan of battle.*

But, that is the kind of thing that happens rarely in a war,*Antietam*comes to mind in the Civil War where the Union forces found a copy of Lee's battle plans. * But there were enough chards of evidence and warnings that suggest the security of the facility either needed to be beefed up considerable or the place should have been abandoned until the security situation inmproved.

Posted*17th October 2012*by*Merv Benson

http://prairiepundit.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-warning-signs-before-benghazi-attack.html?m=1




About 24 hours before the mob attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, al-Qaeda’s leader made his first public statement for four months.

Ayman al-Zawahiri mourned the death of a leading commander from*Libya*and urged his followers to puncture the “arrogance” of the “evil empire, America”.

This*taped missive first appeared on jihadist websites on Monday. On Tuesday,*an armed assault claimed the lives of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his colleagues.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...the-warning-signs-were-there-in-Benghazi.html



Libyan officials warned Washington D.C. that an attack on the consulate was imminent days before the attack happened according to the*documents the Obama admin turned*over to satisfy Senate questions regarding "who changed the talking points" on Benghazi.

It is also obvious that Al-Qaeda's suspected involvement in the Benghazi attack was broadly known from the start. But officials are now contending that references to Al-Qaeda in the talking points were erased in the editing process by press officers from the White House, the DOD, and the FBI.

The source said press officers from the Defense Intelligence agency, the White House and the FBI were "looped in" from the start and that some of them expressed concerns in writing that the media would ask follow up questions if certain words or phrases were used.

In other words, officials contend that as the talking points were passed from press shop to press shop, press officers viewing the documents removed words and phrases they thought would incite the broader press corps to ask more questions.

This means words like "attack" and names like "Al-Qaeda" were removed as various reviewers looked over the points.*

The problem with this theory is that it does not explain whey those who knew better kept up the sham, and stuck with YouTube video explanation or the*impromptu-demonstration-that-spiraled-out-of-control*explanation for the Benghazi attack.*

After all, the documents showed that "most if not all contact" between Washington DC and Libyan officials--both prior to and after the attack began--referenced Al-Qaeda and addressed the suspicion that Al-Qaeda cells or affiliates had instigated the attack from the start.

As an anonymous source who viewed the documents said: "It's amazing that anyone would question who was behind the attack and keep the idea of the demonstration going for weeks."

It's also amazing that Washington DC was warned before the attack took place, yet no one acted on the warning.*

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/06/Latest-Benghazi-Scapegoat-Now-Press-Officers-Edited-Al-Qaeda-Out-Of-Talking-Points






We will NOT go quitely into the night!

 

[packerbacker]

NF....you don't think clinton or o-bama have a dog in this fight? The so-called president and the token secretary of state? And let's throw in ol' I'll-say-whatever-they-tell-me-to-say suzie rice. None of these people should take any responsibility? There must have been a coup we don't know about and the military took over making every call involving our military. And then you are telling me that our military thought it was too dangerous to send help and "There wasn't enough time"?? If these three knew nothing, did nothing and can't remember nothing, what the hell are they in their positions for. Let's get some people in there that know what is going on. A commander in chief that doesn't know what his military is doing is a sad excuse for a "leader". Maybe the military keeps him out of making decisions for a reason.
So, which is it, there wasn't enough time or it was too dangerous to send highly trained military commandos?? When do we decide there isn't enough time to send help? How can anyone predict the exact time a battle will be over? All 3 are too inept for their positions.

 

[Dave44]

Here's the timeline; see what you'd have done differently.

9:40 p.m.: Gunfire is heard outside the Benghazi diplomatic mission, then a loud explosion. Dozens of armed militiamen charge the main gate and set fire to a barracks building as they make for the ambassador's residence.

10 p.m.: Attackers breach the mission walls and make for the ambassador's residence. Stevens and information officer Sean Smith run to a safe room with one security agent.

An alert is sent to the CIA security team at an annex about a mile away, the State Department and the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli. Stevens calls deputy mission chief Gregory Hicks at the embassy and tells him, "Greg, we're under attack."

10:30 p.m.: Stevens and Smith have taken refuge behind a fortified door with heavy metal bars that keeps the attackers from breaking in, but they set fire to the villa with diesel fuel. Within minutes, Stevens and Smith are overwhelmed by smoke.

At about the same time, six U.S. security agents leave the CIA annex for the main building. They and 16 Libyan security guards regain control over the compound and start searching for Stevens and Smith.

Shortly after 11 p.m.: A U.S. surveillance drone arrives over Benghazi. Then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey meet with President Barack Obama.

12:07 a.m., September 12: The State Department sends an e-mail to the White House, the Pentagon and the FBI indicating the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sharia claimed credit for the attack.

Issa demands more State Department documents on Benghazi

1:15 a.m.: A rescue team from Tripoli arrives in Benghazi. About 30 Americans have been rescued from the consulate building and are holed up with the Stevens at the CIA annex.

2 a.m.: Hicks informs Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that they need to evacuate all Americans from Benghazi. At about the same time, an eyewitness captures on video Stevens being pulled from the smoke-filled building.

4 a.m.: The attackers launch a full-on assault against the annex, dropping mortars on the roof. Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods are killed in the attack.

10 a.m.: The bodies of Stevens, Smith, Doherty and Woods are put on the last plane out of Benghazi.

This probably doesn't match with Infowars and the Blaze accounts, but not much this side of the Twilight Zone does.

Luckily you have that awesome power of hindsight. I would have mobilized a rescue and backup. Since it wasn't known yet how long it would last.

 

[Native Floridian]

NF....you don't think clinton or o-bama have a dog in this fight? The so-called president and the token secretary of state? And let's throw in ol' I'll-say-whatever-they-tell-me-to-say suzie rice. None of these people should take any responsibility? There must have been a coup we don't know about and the military took over making every call involving our military. And then you are telling me that our military thought it was too dangerous to send help and "There wasn't enough time"?? If these three knew nothing, did nothing and can't remember nothing, what the hell are they in their positions for. Let's get some people in there that know what is going on. A commander in chief that doesn't know what his military is doing is a sad excuse for a "leader". Maybe the military keeps him out of making decisions for a reason.
So, which is it, there wasn't enough time or it was too dangerous to send highly trained military commandos?? When do we decide there isn't enough time to send help? How can anyone predict the exact time a battle will be over? All 3 are too inept for their positions.

Packer, it is neither. I suggest you pose your military questions about the time line and decisions made by those military commanders to the commanders who made them. Neither of which is the president or the secretary of state.

To the point - your posts here as well as others here illustrate the right's extreme desire to turn Benghazi into a scandal. BTW, it is a scandal only in the eyes of the extreme right. Free thinking, non agenda driven americans do not look at it as such.

You are welcome to your opinion of our leaders being inept. However, your opinion is marginalized by the fact that under our Previous president 100s of thousands of people died in a needless war that did nothing but unite our enemies against us and you sat mute! All Ok with you and others here. No questioning of military decisions that got thousands of our kids killed. And certainly, none of it the President's Fault!

 

[Native Floridian]

One of the big problems i see with the Right's take on Benghazi is that it comes from the same pool of thinking that believes there is something beyond the normal ineptitude of government going on within the Obama administration. Something that believes there is malice within the administration. Impeachable actions. The issue with all this isn't so much that all of it is BS, that the malice doesn't exist, it is what does it take to believe that it is there? To me the much scarier part of this isn't the lies and faux allegations, it's the true believers. Those who refuse facts. those who add two plus two and get three and still point to as proof. Those who driven by agenda.

Take the 60 minutes report on Benghazi for example. When that report first aired FOX News, along with much of the Xright Bloggosphere said "Finally! Someone is listening. Look at this! This is what we've been saying all along!" But then the 60 minutes report was completely debunked. The witness - a liar looking for his fifteen minutes of fame! 60 minutes reporter Laura Logan apologized. CBS apologized. What did FOX News do for supporting the story? Nothing! What did the Xright bloggoshere do for promoting the story? Nothing! The Xright ignores the retraction and continues on the same course of promoting the lies. And, on this very thread posters ignore the retraction and promote the 60 minutes witness as proof of the scandal and cover up. Are people really that stupid? Some, maybe. But, they are that hateful. And that is a scary thing.

 

[UncleMatt]

I totally agree NF.

 

[packerbacker]

I hear a chorus of sheep bahing.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Still ignoring the fact obama, UN ambassador Rice and " What difference at this point does it make " Clinton lied about the attack multiple times trying to blame an obscure video on YouTube that was known by all parties NOT to be the cause.

Of course obama has shown lying to American citizens comes very easy to him ("if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan,)....... if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.")


Leberals are still completely ignoring the fact there were multiple warnings days, weeks and months prior to the attack that was repeatedly ignored by the adminstration.

They can spy on millions of Americans, taping their emails, phones and records but can't see an attack coming even after it was posted on Facebook and warned multiple times by multiple sources.


Al Qaeda posted on Internet they were going to attack, admin ignored.

Al Qaeda was flying their flags from rooftops around the Embassy, admin ignored.

American consulate in Benghazi was bombed twice prior to the deadly attacks on the consulate on September, 11. Admin ignored.

Islamist militants posted threats to the consulate on Facebook prior to the attacks. Militants claimed responsibility for a May 22 attack on a Red Cross facility and called that attack a “message for the Americans disturbing the skies over Derna” in a post on the online social network. Admin ignored.


"Hundreds of al Qaeda rallied in the streets months before Benghazi attack; Obama admin did nothing

When pressed about the lack of security at the Benghazi compound, former Secretary of State Clinton exclaimed, “What difference at this point does it make?” *

Actually, it makes a lot of difference. *We know know that not only was there a terror attack on the US facility Benghazi (something the Obama administration denied for weeks) but also the warning signs before the attack were clear and abundant.*

from IBD (emphasis mine):

Months before the murder of a U.S. ambassador in Benghazi, American intelligence analysts documented a massive al-Qaida rally a few miles from the ambassador’s residence.

At that rally, terror leaders called for the murder of American diplomats.

Three U.S. intelligence reports, unearthed by the American Media Institute and detailed here for the first time, offer vivid descriptions of the al-Qaida meeting.

Flying the black flag of al-Qaida, some 300 armed men gathered in Benghazi’s Al-Tahrir Square on June 7 and 8, 2012. They brandished machine guns, rocket launchers and a truck mounted with an anti-aircraft cannon.

The two-day meeting, which included outdoor prayers and a parade of armed vehicles, was attended by a baker’s dozen of North African al-Qaida affiliates.

"It was like a team pep rally before the game, only for jihad," said a U.S. intelligence analyst who monitors North Africa. "Organized and deadly. You saw what followed. People died."

In the face of these three reports, the*State Department continued to deny requests for additional security for the U.S. ambassador in Libya.

At the same time, the State Department issued a travel advisory warning Americans against going to Libya in August 2012.

Obama administration officials have long denied any warning before the Sept. 11, 2012, Benghazi attacks.

On the campaign trail, the president insisted that al-Qaida was “decimated” and “on the run,”*while intelligence reports prepared for the president’s advisers told a different story — that al-Qaida’s menace was growing in Libya and elsewhere.


So, at the same time that Obama was jetting around on the campaign trail claiming “al Qaeda is decimated,” the terrorist group was*literally*rallying in the streets outside our facility in Benghazi. *

The Obama administration had plenty of warning that a terror attack was coming; even a cursory look at the facts makes this clear. *What we still do not know is why they chose to do nothing about about it. *Their negligence resulted in the murders of four Americans, and today they continue to stonewall any attempts to investigate the events leading up to and following that fateful day.

http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/66900650465/hundreds-of-al-qaeda-rallied-in-the-streets-months



We will NOT go quitely into the night!

 

[Bum Luck]

Still ignoring the fact obama, UN ambassador Rice and " What difference at this point does it make " Clinton lied about the attack multiple times trying to blame an obscure video on YouTube that was known by all parties NOT to be the cause.

Of course obama has shown lying to American citizens comes very easy to him ("if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan,)....... if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.")


Leberals are still completely ignoring the fact there were multiple warnings days, weeks and months prior to the attack that was repeatedly ignored by the adminstration.

They can spy on millions of Americans, taping their emails, phones and records but can't see an attack coming even after it was posted on Facebook and warned multiple times by multiple sources.


Al Qaeda posted on Internet they were going to attack, admin ignored.

Al Qaeda was flying their flags from rooftops around the Embassy, admin ignored.

American consulate in Benghazi was bombed twice prior to the deadly attacks on the consulate on September, 11. Admin ignored.

Islamist militants posted threats to the consulate on Facebook prior to the attacks. Militants claimed responsibility for a May 22 attack on a Red Cross facility and called that attack a “message for the Americans disturbing the skies over Derna” in a post on the online social network. Admin ignored.


"Hundreds of al Qaeda rallied in the streets months before Benghazi attack; Obama admin did nothing

When pressed about the lack of security at the Benghazi compound, former Secretary of State Clinton exclaimed, “What difference at this point does it make?” *

Actually, it makes a lot of difference. *We know know that not only was there a terror attack on the US facility Benghazi (something the Obama administration denied for weeks) but also the warning signs before the attack were clear and abundant.*

from IBD (emphasis mine):

Months before the murder of a U.S. ambassador in Benghazi, American intelligence analysts documented a massive al-Qaida rally a few miles from the ambassador’s residence.

At that rally, terror leaders called for the murder of American diplomats.

Three U.S. intelligence reports, unearthed by the American Media Institute and detailed here for the first time, offer vivid descriptions of the al-Qaida meeting.

Flying the black flag of al-Qaida, some 300 armed men gathered in Benghazi’s Al-Tahrir Square on June 7 and 8, 2012. They brandished machine guns, rocket launchers and a truck mounted with an anti-aircraft cannon.

The two-day meeting, which included outdoor prayers and a parade of armed vehicles, was attended by a baker’s dozen of North African al-Qaida affiliates.

"It was like a team pep rally before the game, only for jihad," said a U.S. intelligence analyst who monitors North Africa. "Organized and deadly. You saw what followed. People died."

In the face of these three reports, the*State Department continued to deny requests for additional security for the U.S. ambassador in Libya.

At the same time, the State Department issued a travel advisory warning Americans against going to Libya in August 2012.

Obama administration officials have long denied any warning before the Sept. 11, 2012, Benghazi attacks.

On the campaign trail, the president insisted that al-Qaida was “decimated” and “on the run,”*while intelligence reports prepared for the president’s advisers told a different story — that al-Qaida’s menace was growing in Libya and elsewhere.


So, at the same time that Obama was jetting around on the campaign trail claiming “al Qaeda is decimated,” the terrorist group was*literally*rallying in the streets outside our facility in Benghazi. *

The Obama administration had plenty of warning that a terror attack was coming; even a cursory look at the facts makes this clear. *What we still do not know is why they chose to do nothing about about it. *Their negligence resulted in the murders of four Americans, and today they continue to stonewall any attempts to investigate the events leading up to and following that fateful day.

Poor Richard's News - Hundreds of al Qaeda rallied in the streets months before Benghazi attack; Obama admin did nothing



We will NOT go quitely into the night!

Don't you think that the ambassador knew these things?

Not only that, the Obama administration can't really "sit" on information or ignore it. Many other departments in the government are involved. I hope no one seriously thinks that there is a vast phone exchange in the White House that all information goes through and is censored and or filtered before anyone can act on it.

Secondly, what would have been the Obama administration's reason for ignoring any information?

BTW, Osama Bin Laden is dead.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Don't you think that the ambassador knew these things?

Not only that, the Obama administration can't really "sit" on information or ignore it. Many other departments in the government are involved. I hope no one seriously thinks that there is a vast phone exchange in the White House that all information goes through and is censored and or filtered before anyone can act on it.

Secondly, what would have been the Obama administration's reason for ignoring any information?

BTW, Osama Bin Laden is dead.

It's his job to know these things. As far as why all those warnings were ignored that is the purpose of an investigation......

When you have warnings months, then weeks and then days in advance, saying you didn't know is not a valid excuse.

Ask the Egyptian government if they have any ideas on why obama would ignore warning signs of an Muslim attack on America.








We will NOT go quitely into the night!

 

[njal]

NF....you don't think clinton or o-bama have a dog in this fight? The so-called president and the token secretary of state? And let's throw in ol' I'll-say-whatever-they-tell-me-to-say suzie rice. None of these people should take any responsibility? There must have been a coup we don't know about and the military took over making every call involving our military. And then you are telling me that our military thought it was too dangerous to send help and "There wasn't enough time"?? If these three knew nothing, did nothing and can't remember nothing, what the hell are they in their positions for. Let's get some people in there that know what is going on. A commander in chief that doesn't know what his military is doing is a sad excuse for a "leader". Maybe the military keeps him out of making decisions for a reason.
So, which is it, there wasn't enough time or it was too dangerous to send highly trained military commandos?? When do we decide there isn't enough time to send help? How can anyone predict the exact time a battle will be over? All 3 are too inept for their positions.

Pack- Excellent post ! I couldn't are more.

 

[njal]

One of the big problems i see with the Right's take on Benghazi is that it comes from the same pool of thinking that believes there is something beyond the normal ineptitude of government going on within the Obama administration. Something that believes there is malice within the administration. Impeachable actions. The issue with all this isn't so much that all of it is BS, that the malice doesn't exist, it is what does it take to believe that it is there? To me the much scarier part of this isn't the lies and faux allegations, it's the true believers. Those who refuse facts. those who add two plus two and get three and still point to as proof. Those who driven by agenda.

Take the 60 minutes report on Benghazi for example. When that report first aired FOX News, along with much of the Xright Bloggosphere said "Finally! Someone is listening. Look at this! This is what we've been saying all along!" But then the 60 minutes report was completely debunked. The witness - a liar looking for his fifteen minutes of fame! 60 minutes reporter Laura Logan apologized. CBS apologized. What did FOX News do for supporting the story? Nothing! What did the Xright bloggoshere do for promoting the story? Nothing! The Xright ignores the retraction and continues on the same course of promoting the lies. And, on this very thread posters ignore the retraction and promote the 60 minutes witness as proof of the scandal and cover up. Are people really that stupid? Some, maybe. But, they are that hateful. And that is a scary thing.

Right on top of the page click on the button and bust loose with a twenty spot already!

All the gibberish you post takes up a lot of band width. I think you should pay for
your lunch once in awhile. Just saying ,I mean a lunch you pay for always taste better then a free one.