RangerTell Calculator - A Comprehensive Report..2

EE THr

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artie---

1. You didn't answer my question, as usual.

2. You changed the subject, as usual.

3. There are no calculators, of any type, which emit various frequencies when using various calculations.

4. Calculators do not transmit. RangerTell does not transimt. A transmitting device is designed to send out radio waves a certain distance; some further than others, and this us usually proportional to the output wattage, which can be measured with a field strength meter. Calculators do not have this design, but rather are specifically designed to not emit any radio waves, because that would interfere with other devices in their area.

5. The RangerTell is a complete fantasy.

6. That's why you couldn't answer my previous post.



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Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
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aarthrj3811

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Please explain how these readings were made?
After a member of the Geotech forum identified the calculator as looking the same as his Casio
My Casio fx-300ES calculator has nearly
I could see they are not the same
drive 15 digits, while the other has only 12 digits
If there is any signal coming from the calculator, then it would originate in the processor area under the epoxy
made up a 5cm diameter coil 50 turns from #18 wire and connected one end to ground, and the other end to the oscilloscope probe
I found the wave form was a little different on the Casio, as well as a lot weaker
they were at only 1/4 the frequency of the Rangertell calculator
These tests showed the calculator generates pulse signals that can be detected at millivolt levels up to several cm distance from the back of the calculator. Pulses from the calculator were observed at 575 Hz contained in an envelope of stronger pulses at 30 Hz.
The results of the calculator testing showed the Examiner calculator sends detectable signals into the air behind it that can be measured up to 5mv on an oscilloscope when using an identical pickup coil as is used inside the Examiner
and it was inverted, showing opposite polarity spikes as the signal seen at the display area
Most of the tests were done with the oscilloscope set to the 2mV scale at various time sweeps. The screen showed pulse trains coming from the calculator that could be detected using the coil,

After some hours of looking at the signals that can be picked up outside the calculator, I decided to measure the actual signals inside to see what is really there. This was done by connecting the probe ground to the negative terminal of the calculator battery and checking the signal at various conductors on the circuit board. I paid special attention to the conductors in the area where the Examiner coil is positioned.
 

EE THr

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aarthrj3811 said:
Please explain how these readings were made?
After a member of the Geotech forum identified the calculator as looking the same as his Casio
My Casio fx-300ES calculator has nearly
I could see they are not the same
drive 15 digits, while the other has only 12 digits
If there is any signal coming from the calculator, then it would originate in the processor area under the epoxy
made up a 5cm diameter coil 50 turns from #18 wire and connected one end to ground, and the other end to the oscilloscope probe
I found the wave form was a little different on the Casio, as well as a lot weaker
they were at only 1/4 the frequency of the Rangertell calculator
These tests showed the calculator generates pulse signals that can be detected at millivolt levels up to several cm distance from the back of the calculator. Pulses from the calculator were observed at 575 Hz contained in an envelope of stronger pulses at 30 Hz.
The results of the calculator testing showed the Examiner calculator sends detectable signals into the air behind it that can be measured up to 5mv on an oscilloscope when using an identical pickup coil as is used inside the Examiner
and it was inverted, showing opposite polarity spikes as the signal seen at the display area
Most of the tests were done with the oscilloscope set to the 2mV scale at various time sweeps. The screen showed pulse trains coming from the calculator that could be detected using the coil,

After some hours of looking at the signals that can be picked up outside the calculator, I decided to measure the actual signals inside to see what is really there. This was done by connecting the probe ground to the negative terminal of the calculator battery and checking the signal at various conductors on the circuit board. I paid special attention to the conductors in the area where the Examiner coil is positioned.


artie, poor artie---

The oscilloscope picked up very low levels of noise coming from the calculator. This can be done with most any electronic device that doesn't transmit. Tape recorders, printers, monitors, just about everything.

The FCC limits the radiation that these types of devices can emit. They do this to ensure that this noise doesn't travel more and a couple inches.

A calculator does not "transmit." The RangerTell has no amplifier, and it doesn't "transmit," either. Try picking up a signal from your RangerTell at a foot or two. Nothing.

And you are claiming that it travels Long Range? And back again? It really wouldn't even matter if it did put out enough power to travel to a long range target and back, because there is no receiver in the RangerTell---and again, no amplifier for a receiver, if it did exist, either.

Then there is the problem that there is no drive mechanism to make the thing point in different directions. How do you explain what makes it "turn" and "point"? You might as well use a couple of bent coathangers, but they have never been proven to work for long range detection, either. And don't use water witching as an example, because all dowsers say that they have to be directly over the water before the rods indicate anything---Sorry, that's not long range, even if dowsing could be proven in a random double-blind test.

What you just posted, above, only proves your claims to be wrong.





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Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

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aarthrj3811

aarthrj3811

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The FCC limits the radiation that these types of devices can emit. They do this to ensure that this noise doesn't travel more and a couple inches.
Wrong Again.
A calculator does not "transmit." The RangerTell has no amplifier, and it doesn't "transmit," either. Try picking up a signal from your RangerTell at a foot or two. Nothing.
Right..The Ranger Tell has no amplifer but if you want to use a set of antenna rods it can be picked up for miles.
And you are claiming that it travels Long Range? And back again?
I know of only one MFD that has made that claim.
Then there is the problem that there is no drive mechanism to make the thing point in different directions
None is needed.
 

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con artist
 –noun Informal .
1.
a person adept at lying, cajolery, or glib self-serving talk.

glib
   –adjective, glib•ber, glib•best.
1.
readily fluent, often thoughtlessly, superficially, or insincerely so: a glib talker; glib answers.
2.
easy or unconstrained, as actions or manners.
3.
Archaic . agile; spry.

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Who are you putting down next?
 

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~SWR~
Nope. Adding a set of antenna rods does not change the fact there is no transmitter or receiver circuit
Could you please tell us how many of the 100’s of LRL’s and MFD’s on the market have a transmitter and receiver in them?
Then you are simply pointing the device in different directions, yourself
Can you tell us where this fact can be found?..Mr. Flowers..
 

EE THr

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aarthrj3811 said:
con artist
 –noun Informal .
1.
a person adept at lying, cajolery, or glib self-serving talk.

glib
   –adjective, glib•ber, glib•best.
1.
readily fluent, often thoughtlessly, superficially, or insincerely so: a glib talker; glib answers.
2.
easy or unconstrained, as actions or manners.
3.
Archaic . agile; spry.

(bold blue by me)
Who are you putting down next?



Oh, poor baby! Got his widdle nonsense post exposed, did he? And is now whining about it!

Stop posting nonsense, and you won't get busted, con-artie!


"Don't make the claim, if you can't take the blame!" :sign13:




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Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

EE THr

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aarthrj3811 said:
~SWR~
Nope. Adding a set of antenna rods does not change the fact there is no transmitter or receiver circuit

Could you please tell us how many of the 100’s of LRL’s and MFD’s on the market have a transmitter and receiver in them?

Then you are simply pointing the device in different directions, yourself

Can you tell us where this fact can be found?..Mr. Flowers..


None have a transmitter or receiver in them---the are all fake. Thanks for pointing that out, con-artie!

As for the "pointing," you can be seen doing just that in your stupid videos, you fool!




:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

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aarthrj3811

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~EE~
None have a transmitter or receiver in them---the are all fake. Thanks for pointing that out, con-artie!
As for the "pointing," you can be seen doing just that in your stupid videos, you fool!
None have a transmitter or receiver in them---
Thank You..100’s of manufactures know they are no needed…Thousands of owner/operators know they are not needed..What’s your excuse for not knowing?
As for the "pointing," you can be seen doing just that in your stupid videos, you fool!
So what difference does that make if your hands move ? Pointing no…Art
 

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EE THr

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aarthrj3811 said:
~EE~
None have a transmitter or receiver in them---the are all fake. Thanks for pointing that out, con-artie!
As for the "pointing," you can be seen doing just that in your stupid videos, you fool!
None have a transmitter or receiver in them---
Thank You..100’s of manufactures know they are no needed…Thousands of owner/operators know they are not needed..What’s your excuse for not knowing?
As for the "pointing," you can be seen doing just that in your stupid videos, you fool!
So what difference does that make if your hands move ? Pointing no…Art



Thanks for admitting that you are simply moving the pointer with your hands, you faker!



:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

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~SWR~
So...I guess validating "100's of manufactures know they are no[sic] needed" is out of the question
No validating needed by the Manufacturers..It is your claim so where can the proof be found?..Art
 

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aarthrj3811

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~SWR~
You are not the spokesperson for 100's of manufacturers. Why do you insist on belittling yourself?
Simple question ..Why are you dodging it?
No validating needed by the Manufacturers..It is your claim so where can the proof be found?..
 

EE THr

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aarthrj3811 said:
..100’s of manufactures know they are no needed…Thousands of owner/operators know they are not needed..What’s your excuse for not knowing?


con-artie, your statement above, is like saying that cars don't need wheels.

It doesn't take a Scientist to see how ridiculous that is. Grow up!



:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

EE THr

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aarthrj3811 said:
~SWR~
calculators as variable frequency oscillators?
No we did not..How big is a variable frequency oscillator and much voltage is required..Art


If you know enough about electronics to accuse people of posting erroneous schematics, then you should know the answer.



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Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

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If you know enough about electronics to accuse people of posting erroneous schematics, then you should know the answer.
If asking where the schematics came from is erroneous then I am guilty..Art
 

EE THr

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aarthrj3811 said:
If you know enough about electronics to accuse people of posting erroneous schematics, then you should know the answer.
If asking where the schematics came from is erroneous then I am guilty..Art


You inferred that they were wrong when you asked for proof. If you know so much, you should be able to see for yourself that they are accurate.


:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

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aarthrj3811

aarthrj3811

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You inferred that they were wrong when you asked for proof. If you know so much, you should be able to see for yourself that they are accurate.
Gee..You got something right for a change..That’s what I do..Ask for proof..Art
 

EE THr

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aarthrj3811 said:
You inferred that they were wrong when you asked for proof. If you know so much, you should be able to see for yourself that they are accurate.
Gee..You got something right for a change..That’s what I do..Ask for proof..Art



No, you make all kinds of fantasy claims, then think that we're supposed to prove you wrong.

You know that a negative can't be proven. You also know that the proof of your claims is your responsibility. That's called reality. But you live in a fantasy world, where proof isn't required (so why ask anyone else for proof of anything?)



:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

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HI room it was posted -->So far, the Electrical Engineers have furnished "proof positive"
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?? and just who may they be?

As for the calculators, are we talking of one fresh from the factory or a highly modified, variable fequency one? Just curious.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

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